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#Post#: 99608--------------------------------------------------
Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: Stembridge1105
Date: November 24, 2025, 12:11 pm
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Hello,
I have received a PCN from Swansea Council for allegedly parking
in a taxi rank. The "photos" at the top of the letter have been
left blank, as attached. Therefore, I went to the council
website to appeal. However, the photos are visible on the
appeals page. I would like to know if I have grounds to appeal
due to Procedural Impropriety due to the pictorial evidence not
being on the PCN letter. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
HTML https://us-noi.v-cdn.net/cdn-cgi/image/quality=80,format=auto,fit=scale-down,height=2000,width=2000/6031891/uploads/editor/b5/p74o5rv0wuv4.png
#Post#: 99630--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 24, 2025, 2:43 pm
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Please post the whole document, all sides, with inly your name
and address redacted. Photos are not a legal requirement on the
PCN, so there is no procedural impropriety.
#Post#: 99631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: Stembridge1105
Date: November 24, 2025, 2:56 pm
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Here is the letter:
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#Post#: 99657--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 24, 2025, 6:13 pm
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I presume this is the taxi rank for your PCN :-
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/CyTu8ZnzqXtfQ61V6
and the sign: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/8JUV5ZgdpxgWAYAD9
So any particular reason for parking there despite the signs ? I
note that GSV is no very up-to-date here, so maybe the
carriageway markings and signs are damaged or missing, but only
you can tell us. The wide yellow line should have immediately
alerted you to a possible parking restriction.
#Post#: 99770--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: Stembridge1105
Date: November 25, 2025, 11:29 am
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Hello, Thank you for the reply. I was parked just further up on
the loading only bay. I couldn't find any other parking nearby
and assumed that no say person would be checking that time on a
Saturday night. I was just hoping that the lack of photos on the
PCN itself would be my get out of jail card. Is this not the
case? Thanks.
#Post#: 99779--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 25, 2025, 12:08 pm
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So in a nutshell, you chanced your arm and lost, true or false ?
#Post#: 99808--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: catnip
Date: November 25, 2025, 4:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Stembridge1105 link ---
>
> Hello, Thank you for the reply. I was parked just further up
on the loading only bay. I couldn't find any other parking
nearby and assumed that no say person would be checking that
time on a Saturday night. I was just hoping that the lack of
photos on the PCN itself would be my get out of jail card. Is
this not the case? Thanks.
>
--- End Quote ---
Post the Council's photos, if you were parked in a loading bay
then the PCN code may be wrong, let's see exactly where you were
located.
#Post#: 100109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: Stembridge1105
Date: November 27, 2025, 12:52 pm
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Thank you for the response. There is the photo from the council:
[img width=640
height=539]
HTML https://parking.swansea.gov.uk/Pages/Media.aspx?PhotoID=1&Reference=V0ozMTA3MDMyMnxETDI0R0ZZfHw4MTNEVTk0Ng==[/img]
#Post#: 100112--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 27, 2025, 1:17 pm
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So you were parked in this bay: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/FVt4ZcRBVVcPfqhQA
Here is the sign as per GSV July 2017: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/PbfsHwP2GWrtPfmW9
Assuming the sign is still there, it shows that it is taxis only
6pm to 6am, and loading only 6am to 6pm. So no parking at all
unless you want to load/unload, and then only 6am to 6pm. So you
can see why this bay was free when you came along to park
somewhere !
Sorry to say it, but I see no credible appeal argument here. The
restriction applies all days of the week because there are no
days on the sign.
#Post#: 100201--------------------------------------------------
Re: Penalty Charge Notice - Grounds to Appeal
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 28, 2025, 7:23 am
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Another snap from a drive-by mobile camera perhaps?
OP, pl post the complete PCN i.e. all sides, all pages simply
redact personal details but confirm they're you.
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