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#Post#: 99554--------------------------------------------------
UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: funbie
Date: November 24, 2025, 9:18 am
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I’m looking for guidance on 2UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs issued at
Leeds City Station in September. I only found out about them
today because my vehicle was still registered to my previous
address (this is on me), so none of the letters ever reached me.
I’ve only now received one letter at my current address from a
debt-collector, and after calling the debt-collector agency they
told me there were actually 2 PCNs and sent over all the
evidence via email.
1. First incident – 7 September
Photos show the car stationary. Clear images. I am out. [This is
straight forward]
2. Second incident – 12 September
Photos show the car paused exactly same spot from 7 september
but only because other vehicles blocked movement. I remained
inside the car, and the wider images show traffic preventing me
from moving. One of the pictures is zoomed, but the full images
make it clear this was forced immobility, not voluntary
stopping.
Current situation:
Both PCNs were escalated without me ever seeing the original
notices because they were sent to my old address. This is the
first time I’ve had the chance to look at the evidence or
challenge anything. I understand this is totally my fault,
What I need advice on:
* How to appeal or challenge when I’ve only just received any
notification? Do i even have any ground?
* Whether forced immobility counts as “stopping” under UKCPS’s
“No Stopping” rules.
* Whether UKCPS should reset both PCNs to the original amount
since these are effectively my first notices or because their
legal obligation was met they can't do anything
* Best next actions from here (challenge, wait for Letter Before
Claim, etc.)
Looking for help from people familiar with UKCPS or Leeds
Station “No Stopping” cases.
#Post#: 99556--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 24, 2025, 9:27 am
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Do not identify the driver.
The land is not “relevant land” for the purpose of the
legislation required to transfer liability from the unknown
driver to the registered keeper. The notices probably say
“non-POFA” to boot.
Search the forum for similar cases.
Too late to appeal now, so you will use this in your defence in
due course.
#Post#: 99564--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: Dave65
Date: November 24, 2025, 9:47 am
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If you go to page 6 on the list of postings (at the bottom)
There is a similar issue at Leeds Station by adam112 November
17th From an earlier October posting.
#Post#: 99570--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: b789
Date: November 24, 2025, 10:06 am
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Stop trying to FUBAR this by contacting useless and powerless
debt collectors. All they can do is try and intimidate the
low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of
ignorance and fear.
As UKCPS hold 2 possible addresses for you, you must immediately
send a Data Rectification Notice to their DPO instructing them
to update their records with your current address for service
and to erase your old address. The highlighted words are there
for a reason, so use them!
As long as the driver is not identified, they cannot pursue you
as the Keeper. Any images they have are irrelevant as far as
identifying the driver. They have no idea who any person is in
the images.
Just ignore all debt recovery letters. Nothing will happen and
come back when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC).
#Post#: 99579--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station
– 2 Notices Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: funbie
Date: November 24, 2025, 10:33 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Stop trying to FUBAR this by contacting useless and powerless
debt collectors. All they can do is try and intimidate the
low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of
ignorance and fear.
>
> As UKCPS hold 2 possible addresses for you, you must
immediately send a Data Rectification Notice to their DPO
instructing them to update their records with your current
address for service and to erase your old address. The
highlighted words are there for a reason, so use them!
>
> As long as the driver is not identified, they cannot pursue
you as the Keeper. Any images they have are irrelevant as far as
identifying the driver. They have no idea who any person is in
the images.
>
> Just ignore all debt recovery letters. Nothing will happen and
come back when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC).
>
--- End Quote ---
Ok :/
I want to clarify that my vehicle log book address showed my
previous address until today, like i said i claim responsibility
of this, i only went ahead an updated the records today. In that
case do you still think UKCPS holds 2 addresses?
I may have reacted to the debt collectors that i am shocked
about these violations as i don't even remember, hope they won't
hold it against me. There is a clear image of me in the first
instance where i am out of the vehicle.
I understand that by not declaring the driver i can probably
ignore it till i get a LoC, but i hope i have the confidence of
fighting this through till end.
In all honestly i was looking for an acceptable resolution for
me paying fine for the 1st instance where its clearly my fault,
and at the original fine penalty of £60. No way i could afford
£340.
#Post#: 99597--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: b789
Date: November 24, 2025, 11:30 am
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UKCPS only have a single chance to request Keeper data. They
cannot go back and request or check it again. If your V5C data
was incorrect at the time, then that is it. That is their "last
known address".
If they have two possible addresses for you, what is to stop
them issuing a county court claim to the old address and you not
knowing about it until you find out you have a CCJ by default?
That's is exactly the kind of FUBAR you can end up with if you
ignore my advice and don't send a DRN to UKCPS.
Also, stop calling them "fines". I will give you £100 for every
occurrence of the word "fine" you can show me on any of the
correspondence you have received. They are simply speculative
invoices from an unregulated private parking firm for an alleged
breach of contract by the driver.
You are really evidencing to everyone that you are low-hanging
fruit on the gullible tree who can be intimidated into paying up
out of ignorance and fear.
Either follow the advice and you won't be paying a penny to
these scammers or else, just do your own thing and figure it out
the hard way. They will see you doing a mile off.
Just ignore all useless debt recovery letters. Debt collectors
are powerless to do anything. Come back when you receive a
Letter of Claim (LoC). As long as the driver is not identified,
they have no lawful basis to sue you as the Keeper. It really is
as simple as that.
#Post#: 99601--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 24, 2025, 11:45 am
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--- Quote ---
> There is a clear image of me in the first instance where i am
out of the vehicle.
--- End Quote ---
Unless you tell them it was you, how does this make any
difference?
Even the police can’t generally identify people from
photographs, although they try. In what way can UKCPS do this?
You’re thinking about this from the wrong end and attributing
capabilities and powers to a private company with a couple of
cameras.
#Post#: 99609--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: b789
Date: November 24, 2025, 12:13 pm
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Challenge...
Take a lovely clear HD photo of a random stranger. Now, identify
that person.
I assume you're going to use the magical unicorn database where
you input the photo you took and out will spit all the details
of that person including their name and address. ::)
#Post#: 99722--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: funbie
Date: November 25, 2025, 7:21 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
>
> If they have two possible addresses for you, what is to stop
them issuing a county court claim to the old address and you not
knowing about it until you find out you have a CCJ by default?
That's is exactly the kind of FUBAR you can end up with if you
ignore my advice and don't send a DRN to UKCPS.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Advice taken and fully embraced. Going to google or search this
forum on How to send a DRN (template) before getting told of by
you :-[
Thanks though. :)
#Post#: 100481--------------------------------------------------
Re: UKCPS “No Stopping” PCNs at Leeds City Station – 2 Notices
Discovered Now Due to Old V5C Address
DIR By: funbie
Date: December 1, 2025, 5:33 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> As UKCPS hold 2 possible addresses for you, you must
immediately send a Data Rectification Notice to their DPO
instructing them to update their records with your current
address for service and to erase your old address. The
highlighted words are there for a reason, so use them!
>
--- End Quote ---
I got this in response to the DRN i sent to UKCPS, Should i
provide them the details in question?:
Good morning,
Thank you for reaching out. Before we can proceed with your
request, we require the following information to locate the
relevant records:
-Parking Charge Reference
-Vehicle registration number
All complaints must be submitted in writing to the complaints
department, as outlined in the correspondence you received.
Please note we will not enter into any further correspondence
through this email.
Kind regards
Data Protection Officer
UKCPS Ltd
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