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London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: November 22, 2025, 1:49 pm
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I seem to have entered upon a season of PCNs. This one came
through the door on Friday. I assume wifey drove through a
pedestrian zone without realising. There are so many of these
pedestrian zones in London that sooner or later one ends up
being hit with the £160 fine.
The video on their website shows the car turning into the road
and going down the road with the restriction times clearly
marked.
Is there any ground at all to fight this or should I bite the
bullet and pay £80 before the 'discount' period runs out?
PCN p1
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PCN p2
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Picture 1
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Picture 2
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 22, 2025, 5:57 pm
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If your wife is using satnav, tell her not to use it any longer,
or the PCN stream will continue.
Please repost Page 1 of the PCN with your name and address
blanked-out. Leave everything else visible.
The approach was a left turn into the restriction. There is an
advance warning sign here : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/dZBwjv2nxQ7z57gD6
And there needs to be because the restriction signs are end-on
to a left-turn approach. Problem is as one approaches the turn
driving virtually in GSV, it reverts to 2016 views so the
restriction signs cannot be seen closer up from the approach
direction, but can be from the other direction and they show
that the signs would not be visible to a motorist intending to
turn left. They are also mounted absurdly high, and this now
seem to be commonplace so one has to wonder why when all the
other signs are at a reasonable height. A motorists most urgent
attention when making a turn is to make sure it is safe, and to
look out for hazaards like pedestrians and cyclists, so his
attention should not be skywards.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Tce6aUAF8fpsqaQi9
Their video shows your car turning into the restricted street
with no hesitation whatsoever. Did you wife see the signs, and
if she did, did she understand what they meant ? With a clear
advance sign, and two prominent signs in good condition,
appealing this will be difficult. Of course the council will
reject anything you say so if you want to fight this you must be
prepared to forego the discount and take them to London
Tribunals.
You could argue the advance sign may have been obscured by a
high-sided vehicle, and the actual restriction signs are place
too high up and also are side on to a motorist approaching to
turn left.
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 23, 2025, 10:39 am
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See the first link in my profile and copy and paste it. Check
the wording fits your ticket.
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: December 1, 2025, 4:25 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> See the first link in my profile and copy and paste it. Check
the wording fits your ticket.
>
--- End Quote ---
Apologies, I have tried to find the relevant link but Can't seem
to find it. Could you please provide me the link? Thank you so
much in advance.
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 1, 2025, 8:33 am
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: January 5, 2026, 6:49 pm
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Thank you. My initial challenge was rejected.
Page 1
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Page 2
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I am planning to take this to tribunal and send a response later
today. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Grounds for Appeal
I am appealing against the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued by
the London Borough of Redbridge on the following grounds:
1. Inadequate and Obscured Signage
The advance warning sign may have been obscured by a high-sided
vehicle at the time of approach, making it impossible for the
driver to see and comply with the restriction.
The actual restriction signs are positioned too high and are
side-on to a motorist approaching to turn left. This positioning
does not provide adequate visibility or clarity for drivers,
contrary to the principles of fair notice under traffic
regulations.
2. Technical Non-Compliance with Statutory Requirements
The PCN fails to comply with mandatory requirements under
Section 4(8)(v) of the London Local Authorities and Transport
for London Act 2003, which states:
(v) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of
the 28-day period, an increased charge may be payable.
This must be read in conjunction with Section 4(8)(iii):
(iii) that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of
the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice.
Issues with the PCN Wording
The PCN states:
If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations
before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of
service of this notice an increased charge of £240 may be
payable.
This wording is defective because:
It omits the mandatory information required by Section 4(8)(v).
It conflates two separate periods (payment and representation)
using the word or, which creates ambiguity. Many would
interpret or as conjunctive, meaning both conditions must be
met, which is misleading.
Even if interpreted disjunctively, the statement lacks clarity
and fails to specify the correct statutory period for payment,
rendering the PCN non-compliant.
3. Lack of Clarity
The omission and conflation of statutory periods create
confusion for motorists regarding their rights and obligations.
This lack of clarity is a procedural impropriety and undermines
the validity of the PCN.
Conclusion
Given the above:
The signage was inadequate and potentially obscured.
The PCN fails to meet statutory requirements under the London
Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003.
The wording is misleading and prejudicial.
I respectfully request that the adjudicator allows this appeal
and cancels the PCN.
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 6, 2026, 5:43 am
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This needs to be abbreviated and tweaked.
Tomorrow is the last day to file an appeal which needs to be
carefully-worded.
PM sent.
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Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 30, 2026, 6:39 am
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;D 226001074A. Too much clutter.
#Post#: 126329--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: astralite
Date: July 30, 2026, 1:43 pm
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well won
#Post#: 126347--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Redbridge PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 30, 2026, 4:25 pm
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Outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ymtUnQI3DXDS_URP8fT4ri4cndOsNmeT/view.
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