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Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 9, 2023, 3:19 am
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Just woundering if i have any chance to appeal both these fines.
So i been Sheffield plenty of times but i have not been there
since start of the year, so recently in may i think they made
this road into a bus gate which to be fair i would have never
known what it meant unless i got a ticket. I live in Aylesbury
and we only have standard bus lanes i never heard of a bus gate
till i got these fines.
I was not aware of the bus gate till i got these fines and i
would never gone through it if i knew about it and i did not go
once but twice in like 45 minutes.
I have been down this road plenty of times in the past but just
recently they changed it but i am not from Sheffield so the
residents know but how could i especially when i been down this
road enough times in the past.
So my questions are do i have any chance when trying to defend
the fine for the above reason and can i link both the fines to
appeal once or do i need appeal separately and just add the
other fines information in, also what are the chances of one
being dropped as i do not mind paying one but think it will be
unfair to pay 2 especially when it happend so close to each
other.
Also i been told the fines should come within 2 weeks if not you
can appeal for that reason and the fines can be dropped is that
true?
I have also tried seen the evidence online on their website but
there is nothing online.
I do know the area quite well but i am not sure where about the
bus lane starts as i can only see the pictures that are on pcn
paper.
I have also uploaded pics of the fines below.
Thanks
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 10, 2023, 6:55 am
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I was woundering if anone had any advice about this as i need to
make a appeal by Monday, someone on pepipoo has said the sign is
hidden and not very clear on GSV.
Thanks
#Post#: 9789--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 10, 2023, 12:33 pm
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It's not at all clear where this bus gate is, because GSV has a
number of views of different years. On the latest, I can't even
see a bus gate sign. Here's GSV for May 2023 showing the exit to
Arundel Gate off the roundabout. You can see the warning on the
sign. The gate is 150 yrds ahead
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/pEVW9j2atBkif34S6
Then you have this sign
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Pf6jqdXRYSPJw3T87
how you get to the Novotel is a mystery as you mustn't drive
past the bus gate sign. Maybe Novotel guests are authorised !
However, it's all a bit puzzling because as you get to the
traffic lights, there are no bus gate signs at all ! GSV still
with the same year and month. So where is this bus gate ?
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/fRvpf3mFkZcwjFGn9
So what we really need is up-to-date photos.
I suppose what you could do is submit representations stating
that you didn't pass any bus gate, and none are shown on Google
Street View dated March 2023
You might also care to look at the video, the sole evidence of
the alleged contravention, download it and post it here.
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 10, 2023, 6:12 pm
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That's the thing, i cannot see a video.This is all that's im
getting in the view evidence
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 10, 2023, 6:23 pm
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Try pressing the "Pay PCN" button. As well as providing payment
a payment page, it normally allows access to photos and videos.
Don't worry, a hand won't come out of the screen and grab your
wallet !
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 11, 2023, 4:12 am
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Nope just says to pay no images and video anywhere
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 11, 2023, 4:17 am
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The links below are just visa and mastercard links as seen in
this full screenshoot
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Baxtinho
Date: November 11, 2023, 4:47 am
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HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3465438,-2.9735898,3a,75y,294.9h,78.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWtPFspuniyuPsOdWvK8U0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
This is one by me. Loads and loads got fined because their
defence was basically "I've always gone that way", which I've
zero sympathy for as that's not an excuse for disregarding road
signs.
Argue it, as insufficient signs is a good one for getting them
overturned, but I think you're dead to rights, sadly.
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 11, 2023, 5:34 am
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This advance sign would probably kybosh any reps you submit
based on inadequate signage
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Re: Sheffield bus gate
DIR By: Abz2k23
Date: November 11, 2023, 7:01 am
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Here is the close up of the bus gate picture on the pcn letter i
cannot see no other picture or videos online, on google maps
there is no bus gate written on that road anywhere.
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