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NCP Parking fine
DIR By: neeldev
Date: November 21, 2025, 12:31 pm
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Hi,
I've got a parking fine attached below. The incident happened on
the 23rd OCT and the fine was only issued on the 18th NOV and I
received the letter on the 21st NOV.
I know I can appeal under no keeper liability, but I was
wondering if I can also appeal because it was issued more than
14 days after the incident.
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Re: NCP Parking fine
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 21, 2025, 1:35 pm
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It’s not a “fine”, it’s an invoice for payment.
If you do not identify the driver in any way, it is too late to
transfer liability to you, presumably the registered keeper.
Are you the registered keeper and is your V5C correct?
You can appeal, for example:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. NCP has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
NCP have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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Re: NCP Parking fine
DIR By: neeldev
Date: November 21, 2025, 1:47 pm
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Thank you for your reply.
I am the registered keeper, and my V5C is correct.
Is there an exception to using the appeal you've given on
railway land, or is that completely fine?
Also, just out of curiosity, is there a time limit for when they
can issue the invoice? I thought it was 14 days.
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Re: NCP Parking fine
DIR By: neeldev
Date: November 21, 2025, 1:48 pm
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#Post#: 99232--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Parking fine
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 21, 2025, 2:13 pm
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If it’s not “relevant land”, such as land covered by railway
byelaws, then that’s another reason, but the basic appeal
doesn’t change, it’s just that you have more ammunition when
it’s rejected.
#Post#: 99267--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Parking fine
DIR By: b789
Date: November 22, 2025, 2:59 am
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They are not even attempting to rely on PoFA because they know
they can’t. Waffling on about PoFA is irrelevant.
Because Pitsea station car park is part of the railway estate
(operated by NCP on behalf of c2c/Network Rail), it falls under
Railway Byelaws rather than being classified as “relevant land”
under PoFA.
Use the following for the appeal as the Keeper only:
--- Quote ---
> I am the registered keeper. NCP cannot hold a registered
keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is
under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, NCP will
be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because
Pitsea station car park is not 'relevant land'.
>
> If c2c or Network Rail wanted to hold owners or keepers liable
under Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift
and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not
pleaded, it is also not legally possible because NCP is not the
property owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never
attempts to be a penalty. It is created for NCPs own profit (as
opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and
NCP has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the
driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
NCP have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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