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#Post#: 99211--------------------------------------------------
PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: LHDriver
Date: November 21, 2025, 11:32 am
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Hi,
It's my first time posting on this forum or any forum so please
tell me if I need to add more detail or how things work.
I was given a PCN (PCN number: ZY10948098, Appeal Number
2250432212) ticket by Lewisham Council for turning on to Dacre
park from Lee High road and traveling in a school zone during
restricted hours. I appealed it based on a sign blocking the
information sign as I approach the turning and not knowing the
area and local rules, I've never actually come across a school
zone before. I got a notice of rejection of representations
letter just before I went on holiday. The payment or further
appeal were due before I got back to the UK and being on holiday
I couldn't really do much other than decide whether to pay or
appeal to the London tribunal. I decided the latter as the
signage is lacking (the fore warning sign is covered by another
sign and the other signs are mainly visible as you turn)
especially if there are lots of things happening on the road
when you make the final turn.
I've been given a court date of 23/12/2025 so I have some time
but I'm not sure if I put enough information in the appeal to
help me win the appeal to the London tribunals. I haven't
backed-up anything I've said with any legislation as I don't
even know where to start or look but I don't think that their
assertion that all the signs are TSRGD compliant is true. Can I
get some advice on what I should do/the level of detail I need
to show on my side?
What I didn't say in my initial representations was that there
were cars close behind me on this two lane road and pedestrians
close to the crossing as I turned. This meant without the
forewarning of the information sign it would have been
difficult, not to mention dangerous, to look, read and
understand the timings on the signs at the entrance to the road
as they became relevant/visible when I started my turn. This is
a google map link to the road just before the turning
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/qVqsbV78Y17teMSeA
and the sign is even
covered here.
#Post#: 99215--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 21, 2025, 11:43 am
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We need to see the PCN, so please post it redacting only name
and address. It seems GSV is not sufficiently up-to-date to show
the signs. If you turned left in ]to Dacre Park, I would expect
an advance warning sign on Lee High Road; is there one ?
#Post#: 99346--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 22, 2025, 12:37 pm
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I am available to assist with this.
#Post#: 99662--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: LHDriver
Date: November 25, 2025, 12:35 am
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Hi Incandescent and Hippocrates,
Thank you very much for offering to help.
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> It seems GSV is not sufficiently up-to-date to show the signs
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At this exact location
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/qVqsbV78Y17teMSeA<br
/>when you look forward you can see that the advanced warning
information sign is behind a red triangle hump sign, the images
are GSV taken June 2025. A few images forward to the entrance of
Dacre park the GSV image is from June 2024 and the signs aren't
there. What this tells me is the the advanced warning sign has
been hidden behind the red triangle since it's been put up,
during the past 18 months.
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These are the images of the approach that I took recently
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> We need to see the PCN, so please post it redacting only name
and address.
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I hope this is clear enough of the original PCN.
I'm sorry it took me a while to get back to you, I wasn't
expecting to get such a quick response and it took some time to
find a suitable site to host the images. I'll be more responsive
now I have a better grasp of the system.
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: LHDriver
Date: November 26, 2025, 12:03 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> I am available to assist with this.
>
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Would you like me to email you? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 26, 2025, 12:08 pm
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PM sent. We need to change the date. I'll explain privately.
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 1, 2025, 1:29 pm
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I am on the case.
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 12, 2026, 1:04 pm
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Just a reminder to myself. Case won recently:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lewisham-borough-code-52m-failing-to-comply-with-a-prohibition-on-certain-type-o/msg117916/#msg117916
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 10, 2026, 7:19 pm
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Won. Case reference 2250432212
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Re: PCN 53J Dacre Park- Failing to comply with restrictions on
vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera enforcement)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 11, 2026, 12:20 pm
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Outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MMCusCbLpf7E0_JbcAv27ktatsDBHukn/view.
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