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Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: November 21, 2025, 8:21 am
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The driver overstayed by approx 15 minutes. We received an
Unpaid debt reminder for £170 in Dec 24 and now a pre legal debt
collection notice for the same amount. Any advice appreciated.
How do I attach pictures of the letters?
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 21, 2025, 8:41 am
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> How do I attach pictures of the letters?
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There is a guide at the top of this forum titled "READ THIS
FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/".<br
/>If you read that first, it will explain what information we
need
and also includes a link to a guide on sharing images.
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: November 21, 2025, 8:51 am
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Thank you. Here are the links
HTML https://ibb.co/ZRBdq7q7
HTML https://ibb.co/JWRK9WHQ
HTML https://ibb.co/GfjL7Ywy
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 21, 2025, 8:53 am
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Are you sure you want to share your full name and home address
on a public forum? If not, you may want to replace those images
with ones where those details are obscured.
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: November 21, 2025, 8:57 am
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Sorry, forgot that I hadn't scrubbed out one of them. I've
amended the links above.
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: b789
Date: November 21, 2025, 10:35 am
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You can safely ignore all those useless debt recovery letters.
When you receive an actual Letter of Claim (LoC) then come back.
The only thing powerless debt collectors can do is intimidate
the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of
ignorance and fear.
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: November 21, 2025, 10:39 am
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Thank you. Appreciate the peace of mind.
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: December 4, 2025, 6:36 am
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Ok just got something from solicitors. Ignore?
HTML https://ibb.co/3Y1qmbwc
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: b789
Date: December 4, 2025, 7:00 am
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They may claim to be "solicitors" but in fact this
bottom-dwelling firm of wannabe legals is simply acting as a
glorified debt collector. Note the wording: "We have been
instructed by ZZPS, who are acting on behalf of (not so) Smart
Parking".
ZZPS are the debt collector equivalent of something brown and
smelly you avoid stepping in. They are a totally powerless and
useless firm of bottom-dwelling debt collectors. They can
instruct god to bring down a plague for anyone cares. They have
absolutely zero standing in the contract allegedly breached by
the driver.
The ONLY entity that can instruct a solicitor to take action
such as a Letter of Claim or a claim itself is (not so)(Smart
Parking. ZZPS or their equally useless debt recovery arm, GCTT
are simply not a factor in ANYTHING to do with this matter. You
can safely (but carefully) use their letters as toilet paper.
When the time comes, (not so) Smart Parking are most likely
going to use DCB Legal to issue the LoC and the eventual claim.
If it were me who received that letter from QDR, I would respond
with:
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> Re: Your reference [xxxxx] / alleged debt relating to Smart
Parking Limited
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> I acknowledge receipt of your latest piece of recycled
threat-o-gram paper.
>
> Let us start with the basics. You state that you have been
“instructed by ZZPS Limited who are acting on behalf of Smart
Parking Limited”. In other words, Smart Parking have not
instructed you at all. A powerless, bottom-dwelling, third-party
debt collector (ZZPS) has passed a file to a firm of wannabe
legals to send some template bluster. That may impress the
uninitiated, but it does nothing to alter the legal position.
>
> ZZPS are not a party to any alleged contract, have no cause of
action, and have no standing whatsoever. They sit entirely
outside the alleged parking contract like something brown and
unpleasant on the pavement that most people sensibly avoid
stepping in. They can “instruct” whoever they like or pray for
any plague they fancy; it remains legally meaningless. The only
entity with any conceivable locus to commence proceedings is
Smart Parking Limited, and even they would face serious
difficulties.
>
> Your letter is nothing more than glorified debt collection
masquerading as legal correspondence. It is not a Letter of
Claim compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims. It
is simply an exercise in hollow intimidation, dressed up with
the usual scary buzzwords (CCJ, enforcement, credit file,
employment prospects, etc.) that you and your sewer-level,
debt-chasing chums churn out by the thousand. I am not fooled.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt:
>
> [indent]1. The alleged debt is denied in its entirety.
> 2. I will not be making any payment to ZZPS, to their GCTT
sideline, or to your firm.
> 3. You have no independent standing. Unless and until Smart
Parking Limited themselves choose to issue a fully compliant
Letter of Claim, there is nothing further to discuss.[/indent]
>
> Any further debt collector drivel from you, ZZPS, GCTT or any
other bottom-feeding outfit you farm this out to will be treated
as harassment and retained for regulatory and evidential
purposes. Any genuine legal correspondence (from an actual
principal with standing, not from a chain of intermediaries
playing “pass the parcel”) must be compliant with the Pre-Action
Protocol and must come direct on Smart Parking Limited
letterhead or from properly instructed, real solicitors acting
for them, not for ZZPS.
>
> Given the above, you are formally put on notice that I expect
you to close your file and crawl back to ZZPS with the news that
their manufactured “debt” is not going to be prised from this
pocket.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt, I refer you to the answer given in
Arkell v Pressdram (1971).
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Name]
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Re: Pre Legal Debt Collection Notice - Insufficient Paid Time -
Turner Contemporary Car Park Margate
DIR By: Hiram
Date: December 4, 2025, 7:02 am
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Awesome reply, thank you!
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