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Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:00 am
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Okay, here we go. The NtH has been received today, Dec 3, and
was issued on Nov 24.
Given Hertz forwarded the PCN to me on 12 Nov, I'm assuming that
put the GroupNexus deadline at 21 days from that email. That
means I received the NtH exactly 21 days later.
They did not include any other documents other than the PCN.
So, if I am correct in thinking, I now need to appeal using the
'I am the Hirer...' message shared by [member=26]b789[/member]
and then just wait for the next update?
#Post#: 100842--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:05 am
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Exactly.
For completeness can you show us the Notice to Hirer?
#Post#: 100843--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: jfollows
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:06 am
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Yes.
21 days is two working days after posting. Probably 4 December
if you work it through, but sounds OK whatever.
#Post#: 100847--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:22 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
> For completeness can you show us the Notice to Hirer?
--- End Quote ---
Sure, I've removed any identifying information in case they're
snooping this board.
I saw elsewhere that Plan A was a complaint to the client
landowner. Shall I submit the appeal, as is, regardless and then
also make a complaint to the client landowner?
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#Post#: 100856--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: jfollows
Date: December 3, 2025, 7:54 am
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That’s a Notice to Keeper, not to Hirer, they’re not “snooping
the board” and removing times and dates is not helpful.
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You were not the Registered Keeper at the time of parking, as
claimed.
#Post#: 100865--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: b789
Date: December 3, 2025, 8:19 am
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Seriously? Take your tin-foil hat off and show us all the dates
and times on that Notice. These firms issue over 40,000+ PCNs
every single day of the year. Even if your perverted fantasy
about some team of hooded "Yoofs" in a dark room somewhere
scouring the internet for posts about a specific PCN were
founded, so bloody what? They cannot change anything because the
unlawful behaviour is exposed. What on earth do you imagine they
could do if they were able to identify your PCN?
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Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 8:46 am
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Wow, apologies to all. I thought I was being prudent erring on
the side of caution.
I just assumed that it would be best to redact anything that
could be linked to the open case.
This is my first time doing this. I can assure you I am not a
conspiracy theorist or have perverted fantasies(???)
But, easily fixed (see below).
So, if this is a NtK not NtH then, given I received it only this
morning, am I meant to be waiting longer for a NtH?
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#Post#: 100877--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 8:53 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Seriously? Take your tin-foil hat off and show us all the
dates and times on that Notice. These firms issue over 40,000+
PCNs every single day of the year. Even if your perverted
fantasy about some team of hooded "Yoofs" in a dark room
somewhere scouring the internet for posts about a specific PCN
were founded, so bloody what? They cannot change anything
because the unlawful behaviour is exposed. What on earth do you
imagine they could do if they were able to identify your PCN?
>
--- End Quote ---
Mind you, this is exactly what a GroupNexus asset would say...
#Post#: 100886--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 9:38 am
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Update: I submitted a complaint to the landowner, Moto Services
Ltd., using a successful template I found here on the board.
This was the response I got (literally a few hours later):
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#Post#: 100887--------------------------------------------------
Re: How does the PCN deadline work while transferring liability
from Hertz to hirer/keeper?
DIR By: mjlazer
Date: December 3, 2025, 9:40 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> That’s a Notice to Keeper, not to Hirer. You were not the
Registered Keeper at the time of parking, as claimed.
>
--- End Quote ---
Do you know why GroupNexus has just sent the same thing they
sent to Hertz (NtK) rather than a NtH, which I expected to be
the next step in the process?
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