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       #Post#: 98860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: Southpaw82 Date: November 19, 2025, 11:44 am
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       [quote author=BadDriveroo link=topic=8834.msg98843#msg98843
       date=1763572542]
       [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=8834.msg98834#msg98834
       date=1763571471]
       He seems resistant to actual help.
       [/quote]
       I'm not sure why you'd feel like that, my understanding is that
       any interaction with a mobile phone not in a fixed cradle is an
       offence.
       If that's not correct you are welcome to tell me different.
       [/quote]
       Well, the offence is (crudely) using a mobile phone while
       driving. You said you weren’t using it. Yet you think you’re
       guilty. Hence my confusion. But I’m not the one facing a totting
       up ban so I’m disinclined to pull teeth to help you.
       #Post#: 98862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: BadDriveroo Date: November 19, 2025, 11:56 am
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       [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=8834.msg98860#msg98860
       date=1763574291]
       Well, the offence is (crudely) using a mobile phone while
       driving. You said you weren’t using it. Yet you think you’re
       guilty. Hence my confusion. But I’m not the one facing a totting
       up ban so I’m disinclined to pull teeth to help you.
       [/quote]
       Well,
       In response to someone saying the details may be relevant - I
       have posted the details.
       In response to someone asking about an exceptional hardship case
       - I have posted my situation.
       I'm not sure what else would be relevant - but I don't know what
       I don't know, which is why I found myself here.
       #Post#: 98886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: Dave Green Date: November 19, 2025, 2:52 pm
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       [quote author=BadDriveroo link=topic=8834.msg98788#msg98788
       date=1763559243]
       Then stopped same day for having my phone in my hand by a
       passing patrol car, not using it but that's irrelevant.[/quote]
       You need to say exactly why the phone was in your hand at the
       time you were seen.
       Edited because I missed your explanation before I posted.
       #Post#: 98889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: BadDriveroo Date: November 19, 2025, 3:03 pm
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       [quote author=Dave Green link=topic=8834.msg98886#msg98886
       date=1763585555]
       [quote author=BadDriveroo link=topic=8834.msg98788#msg98788
       date=1763559243]
       Then stopped same day for having my phone in my hand by a
       passing patrol car, not using it but that's irrelevant.[/quote]
       You need to say exactly why the phone was in your hand at the
       time you were seen.
       If you were simply picking it up to move it to a different place
       then you weren't using it but if you were doing something else
       such as checking the time on your phone or looking to see if you
       had any messages or e-mails then even though you may not have
       been making or receiving a call. as far as the law is concerned,
       you were using the phone.
       [/quote]
       Posted exactly what occurred above.
       My default is your default and I can't imagine for a minute a
       magistrate would believe otherwise - I don't see how I could
       prove it.
       The solicitor I contacted today seems to think the case is
       defendable on whether the police can, but since there were two
       of them... the barrister says take the phone points and go to
       court on the speeding, if they require it.
       #Post#: 98901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: NewJudge Date: November 19, 2025, 5:03 pm
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       [quote]... the barrister says take the phone points and go to
       court on the speeding, if they require it.[/quote]
       With the basis of your defence to the speeding charge being....?
       #Post#: 98902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: Southpaw82 Date: November 19, 2025, 5:18 pm
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       I assumed an EH plea.
       #Post#: 98924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good solicitor
       ?
       By: BertB Date: November 20, 2025, 4:02 am
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       With the assumption being that all the OP was doing was plugging
       in the charger, I'm surprised the advise is to accept that FP
       and take the speeding to court to argue EH.
       I would have thought a decent traffic lawyer would look at
       trying to argue the mobile offence down to 'driving a vehicle
       while not in proper control'. Would see 3 points instead of 6
       and possibly negate the need for an EH argument altogether if
       successful.
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