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#Post#: 98809--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: BadDriveroo
Date: November 19, 2025, 9:04 am
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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> And are you actually guilty of those offences?
>
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Yes.
#Post#: 98819--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: 666
Date: November 19, 2025, 9:44 am
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--- Quote from: BadDriveroo link ---
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> [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=8834.msg98808#msg98808
date=1763564439]
> And are you actually guilty of those offences?
>
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Yes.
[/quote]
But you said you were NOT using the phone. To be guilty of the
offence, you have to be using it. Please give us more details.
#Post#: 98829--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: Gilan02
Date: November 19, 2025, 10:27 am
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Google maps and search there for solicitors, you can then see
reviews for them.
#Post#: 98830--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: Gilan02
Date: November 19, 2025, 10:29 am
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Also have you phoned and asked if you can have a course? Worth a
try.
#Post#: 98834--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 19, 2025, 10:57 am
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--- Quote from: 666 link ---
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> [quote author=BadDriveroo link=topic=8834.msg98809#msg98809
date=1763564676]
> [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=8834.msg98808#msg98808
date=1763564439]
> And are you actually guilty of those offences?
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes.
[/quote]
But you said you were NOT using the phone. To be guilty of the
offence, you have to be using it. Please give us more details.
[/quote]
He seems resistant to actual help.
#Post#: 98836--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: BadDriveroo
Date: November 19, 2025, 10:58 am
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--- Quote from: 666 link ---
>
> [quote author=BadDriveroo link=topic=8834.msg98809#msg98809
date=1763564676]
> [quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=8834.msg98808#msg98808
date=1763564439]
> And are you actually guilty of those offences?
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes.
[/quote]
But you said you were NOT using the phone. To be guilty of the
offence, you have to be using it. Please give us more details.
[/quote]
Okay sure,
I was using SATNAV to find my way to the motorway - Phone in a
fixed cradle, earbuds in in case of calls - as always.
My power cable is very fussy and will not remain in place whilst
the phone is in the cradle.
Once I was on the Motorway approach I removed the phone from the
cradle to plug in the power cable and leave it in a cubby hole
where the charging cable is supported.
At the point the police passed me the phone was in my right hand
and the cable in my left. I had to remove the earbuds to speak
to the officer. I couldn't tell you what app was open on the
phone at the time - purely random whatever it was.
TBH I thought it cut and dried which is why I didn't give more
detail.
#Post#: 98839--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: November 19, 2025, 11:06 am
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If you are convicted of both offences, what “Exceptional
Hardship” will you or others suffer. Note the hardship must be
exceptional – that is over and above that which everybody might
suffer if they were banned?
#Post#: 98843--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: BadDriveroo
Date: November 19, 2025, 11:15 am
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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> He seems resistant to actual help.
>
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I'm not sure why you'd feel like that, my understanding is that
any interaction with a mobile phone not in a fixed cradle is an
offence.
If that's not correct you are welcome to tell me different.
#Post#: 98857--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: BadDriveroo
Date: November 19, 2025, 11:42 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> If you are convicted of both offences, what “Exceptional
Hardship” will you or others suffer. Note the hardship must be
exceptional – that is over and above that which everybody might
suffer if they were banned?
>
--- End Quote ---
This is where I think I'm at - thank you for asking.
I started a micro business 10 months ago - more successful than
I expected - I left my old job which included driving to
concentrate on this full time and capitalise on the surprising
growth and christmas trade.
I currently have to drive parcels on a daily basis to a Postal
drop off point. Parcels are numerous and heavy when in number -
but not enough in number to qualify for collection services just
yet - that will come within 6 months if growth continues.
The business plan includes multiple 'in person' markets in 2026
to raise our (the business) profile.
The business is just getting to the point it's clearing its
start-up debt and on track to begin to pay me in the new year.
If I have to pay a driver - it's with what I would have paid
myself and the business will fold once my savings run out. I am
50 single, no dependants (so no real case to make there)
mortgage to pay and with 9-12 points - no prospect of getting my
old job back, or any of the other obvious choices.
Not sure it's much of a case, but it's where I'm at.
#Post#: 98858--------------------------------------------------
Re: Expecting a ban on Totting Up - How to find a good
solicitor?
DIR By: BadDriveroo
Date: November 19, 2025, 11:44 am
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--- Quote from: Reentrant link ---
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> You could try Andrew Thompson
HTML http://www.counsel.direct
HTML http://www.counsel.direct
(He posts as AGTLAW on Pistonheads and
is based in Leeds)
>
--- End Quote ---
I have contacted him - thank you for the tip - ages since I've
been on pistonheads, great to know it's still going.
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