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       #Post#: 98717--------------------------------------------------
       ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: kno
       Date: November 18, 2025, 5:36 pm
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       Hello Everyone,
       I have received a PCN from ECP for overstay in Staines Road
       Retail Park.
       Pics are here -
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       Context - The driver visited Lidl located as part of the car
       park, but later stepped out to a restaurant which caused the
       overstay.
       I am the registered keeper since 2022. V5C address is
       up-to-date.
       Can you please advice on how to take this forward?
       My initial thoughts - Based on what I have read on other ECP
       PCNs, as long as I do not share the driver details, the RK is
       not liable. Does this apply in my case?
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       Date of event - 08/11/2025
       PCN issue date - 13/11/2025
       PCN postal receipt date - 18/11/2025
       Duration of stay - 2 hours 5 mins
       Contravention - Overstayed the maximum time period allowed
       #Post#: 98737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 19, 2025, 1:49 am
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       Do you have a receipt from Lidl for that day? If you do, you
       should first try Plan A and get them to cancel the PCN. Don’t
       mention that you used their car park also to remain on their
       property in excess of the terms.
       If they don’t cancel, then you will never have to pay a penny to
       ECP anyway, if you follow the advice. Even though their NtKs are
       never 100% compliant with PoFa, you would never win that
       argument unless you had to do so in front of a judge.
       It would never reach that stage even though this will end up
       being a county court claim. As long as the claim is defended
       using the template defence we provide, it would eventually be
       discontinued. No doubt about it.
       You can go through the futile appeals process if you want, but
       the eventual outcome will still be as I have outlined above.
       Initial appeal, rejection, POPLA appeal, rejection, ignore
       useless debt recovery letters, Letter of Claim (LoC), N1SDT
       Claim form, defend, N180DQ, waste of time mediation call,
       allocation to your local county court, Directions Order and
       eventual Notice of Discontinuation N279.
       The. Whole process will take around 9-12+ months. If you want to
       go through the useless appeals process first, then a quick
       search of the forum for any recent ECP PCN will give you the
       suggested appeal texts.
       Or… just skip everything until the LoC or claim defence stage.
       #Post#: 98874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: kno
       Date: November 19, 2025, 1:27 pm
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       Yes, I do have the receipt. I had the advantage of going
       digital, so it's an online copy now.
       I did write to them today, but their reply is similar like
       others. They are citing that they are not the landowner.
       Their response -
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       I am thinking of escalating this within LIDL, just need to find
       out the next level.
       I understand what you said regarding the appeals process. If
       they are not acknowledging the appeals properly, then I shall
       wait for LoC. If there is anything to watch out for, or you want
       me to do, please let me know.
       Thank You
       #Post#: 98920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 20, 2025, 3:49 am
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       If it is a shared car park with other stores, then you will need
       to find the lAndowner or their managing agent. It is whoever has
       contracted ECP, that you need to get to cancel the PCN.
       #Post#: 98932--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: November 20, 2025, 4:24 am
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       A note that if you move house before any claim has been
       initiated, you should write to ECP to inform them of your new
       address.
       #Post#: 107277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: kno
       Date: January 24, 2026, 6:48 pm
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       I got a letter today which indicates ECP handed over my case to
       DCBL.
       Is the advice still to wait for a LoC and ignore all other
       communication?
       #Post#: 107285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ECP - Overstay - Staines Road Retail Park
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: January 25, 2026, 3:46 am
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       Yes.
       Ignore DCBL, but the Letter of Claim will come from DCB Legal.
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