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       #Post#: 98397--------------------------------------------------
       Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Coldhands
       Date: November 16, 2025, 12:28 pm
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       Same location as paulc156 and as previously appealed by shah123.
       I turned left on this occasion into Sydney road. Completely
       missed the signage, realised later this was just because of the
       height and positioning.
       PCN & images from council -
  HTML https://imgchest.com/p/wl7lavg9oyx
       Any advice appreciated. Thank you!
       #Post#: 98399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 16, 2025, 1:14 pm
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       The height of these signs is really quite unbelievable. There
       has to be doubt whether a motorist can even read the text below
       the Flying Motorbike sign.  The text must be getting on for 3
       metres above pavement level. This really needs to be presented
       to an adjudicator. For me these signs totally fail the adequacy
       test on height alone !
       #Post#: 98401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: November 16, 2025, 1:22 pm
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       There is a fair chance of winning on the hight of the signage
       rendering it unreadable
       #Post#: 98404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Coldhands
       Date: November 16, 2025, 3:33 pm
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       Should I go with a very simple informal representation then, as
       follows?
       'The height of the signs that I passed marking the start of the
       pedestrian zone are excessively high and the positioning
       irregular. It is highly unlikely that a motorist turning off the
       high road onto this street would be able to read them. This was
       the case for myself when I turned into the side street - I did
       not even notice the signs due to their excessive height. Thus, I
       would ask that you cancel this PCN and also conduct a full
       review into the height and positioning of these signs.'
       #Post#: 98408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 16, 2025, 5:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Coldhands link ---
       >
       > Should I go with a very simple informal representation then,
       as follows?
       >
       > 'The height of the signs that I passed marking the start of
       the pedestrian zone are excessively high and the positioning
       irregular. It is highly unlikely that a motorist turning off the
       high road onto this street would be able to read them. This was
       the case for myself when I turned into the side street - I did
       not even notice the signs due to their excessive height. Thus, I
       would ask that you cancel this PCN and also conduct a full
       review into the height and positioning of these signs.'
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Seems OK to me. Anything else we should be aware of ? Have you
       looked at their video ?
       #Post#: 98424--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 17, 2025, 4:13 am
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       I seriously advise using the information in my first link in my
       profile as the PCN is invalid since it is missing mandatory
       information.
       #Post#: 98435--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Coldhands
       Date: November 17, 2025, 4:43 am
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       I don't think so. Video is nothing special -
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NKeCL0QaATups89_Jl-MaJaMKWoI7jUN/view?usp=drivesdk
       #Post#: 98436--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Coldhands
       Date: November 17, 2025, 4:43 am
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       [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] I will take a look thank you!
       #Post#: 98444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 17, 2025, 5:10 am
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       IMO, the adequacy of signage refers to the totality of signage,
       not just the entry signs. OP, are there any advance signs
       warning of this restriction?
       #Post#: 98453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Redbridge PCN - entered a pedestrian zone - Sydney Road
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 17, 2025, 5:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Coldhands link ---
       >
       > I don't think so. Video is nothing special -
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NKeCL0QaATups89_Jl-MaJaMKWoI7jUN/view?usp=drivesdk
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As per usual, the signage is illegible.
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