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NIP from TVP for 47 in a 40. Any advice?
By: RTB_ Date: November 16, 2025, 4:56 am
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Good Morning everyone,
I've recently received a NIP through the post from Thames Valley
Police. The NIP was received within 14 days of the alleged
offence. I was caught by a camera van in one of their favourite
'money-printing' spots - the 40mph section of the A33
Northbound, three-lane wide dual-carriageway, straight,
well-sighted, and just after the national speed limit section.
My only slight reservation with the legitimacy of the penalty is
that I'm a little sceptical that the camera van had a clear line
of sight to my front number plate as I approached it. The van
was parked on the grass verge adjacent to lane 1, whilst I was
in lane 3 and had a car directly in front of me. Perhaps this is
just wishful thinking on my part, and the fact that I've
received a NIP shows that they must have had?
I've never had any points on my licence previously (22 years
clean), but did do a speed awareness course just over 2 years
ago. That was a for exceeding 70mph on the motorway, caught by a
gantry camera. My initial thought was that I won't get offered a
speed awareness course this time, as it's within 3 years of my
last one. However, I did see it suggested somewhere that
motorway offence speed awareness courses differ from
non-motorway offence speed awareness courses, meaning the 3 year
rule doesn't count. Wishful thinking again I guess, and I can't
find the details of my previous speed awareness course to
confirm.
So in summary, is there anything I can do, or should I just take
it on the chin and accept it? If I were to request evidence are
you then committed to pleading 'not-guilty'?
Any thoughts/advice appreciated, before I accept my fate!
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Re: NIP from TVP for 47 in a 40. Any advice?
By: NewJudge Date: November 16, 2025, 6:44 am
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Well the camera operator obviously had a clear enough sight of
your car to capture its VRN.
Some forces do offer different types of courses and will allow
more than one to be taken depending on the circumstances. It’s
up to them. If they don’t offer a course, a fixed penalty (£100
and 3 points) is the alternative.
If you want to dispute the charge you will have to decline or
ignore any out-of-court offers the police may make and plead not
guilty in court. There, you will have to show that the method
used to detect your speed was unreliable and so the court could
not be sure that the offence was committed. To succeed with this
you would almost certainly have to enlist expert help for which
you would have to pay.
If you fail, you will face a fine of half a week’s net income, a
surcharge of 40% of that fine and three points. As well as that,
the police will ask for costs which will be at least £650, but
much more if they have to engage expert help to counter your
claim.
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Re: NIP from TVP for 47 in a 40. Any advice?
By: RTB_ Date: November 16, 2025, 9:19 am
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Thanks NewJudge, sounds like i'd better take it on the chin and
keep my fingers crossed for a speed awareness. Thanks
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