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Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: Zibster
Date: November 15, 2025, 11:33 am
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The registered keeper of a vehicle has received a Parking Charge
Notice for the above location. The driver attended a two day
course at the hotel. On the first day they attended in a
different car and submitted a registration number different to
that on the Notice but paid for two days parking. On the second
day they attended in the vehicle which received the Notice but
did not make note of that at the reception. So to be clear two
days had been paid for, the Notice is for the 2nd day.
Can you advise how to make a successful appeal please.
Is it by stating that the land (if appropriate) is not relevant
for schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 or using a
way to explain the situation as occurred.
In either event can you provide the correct method of appeal.
Thanks as usual folks.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 15, 2025, 11:56 am
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Please read and act on
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
For example,
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> 3. Post the notice(s) you have received – as well as providing
important context, the notices may contain/omit details that can
be used to help you successfully fight the charge. Upload photos
of any and all notices you have received from the parking
company. You should show us all pages of the notice(s), remove
personal details (name/address, PCN reference number, Vehicle
Registration Mark), but show us all dates and times. Details
that you think are trivial could help you win, so don’t leave
anything out.
>
> Ideally you will have sought advice here before taking action,
but if you have already responded, show us any correspondence
you have sent, and the response(s) you have received in return.
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You have obscured too much information.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: Zibster
Date: November 15, 2025, 12:03 pm
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apologies
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: November 16, 2025, 2:32 am
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Show us the back of the PCN.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: Zibster
Date: November 16, 2025, 3:13 am
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: b789
Date: November 16, 2025, 4:14 am
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That Notice to Keeper warrants a formal complaint because it is
in breach of the PPSCoP section 8.1.1(d). The location is not
relevant land so the Keeper cannot be liable. Only the driver
can be liable and they have no idea who that is unless the
Keeper blabs it, inadvertently or otherwise.
For now, simply appeal, ONLY as the Keeper, with the following:
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> I am the registered keeper. ParkingEye cannot hold a
registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land
that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law,
ParkingEye will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA
provisions because Manchester Airport is not 'relevant land'.
>
> If Manchester Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable
under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift
and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not
pleaded, it is also not legally possible because ParkingEye is
not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never
attempts to be a penalty. It is created for ParkingEye’s own
profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public
purse) and ParkingEye has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
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> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
ParkingEye have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us
both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: Zibster
Date: November 16, 2025, 7:11 am
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Thank you b789.
So I assume your advice is that this is the best method of
appeal rather than evidencing that the day had been paid for but
as a different registration number?
Thanks again.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 16, 2025, 7:19 am
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Parking Eye get 0p from however much you paid for parking.
Their contract allows them to go after and keep the money from
people who break their rules. It’s their only source of money.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: Zibster
Date: November 24, 2025, 1:44 am
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Out of respect to the site I'm just letting you know that my
daughter who was the driver called the Radison hotel directly
and their reception cancelled the Parking Notice and we've had
written confirmation.
It's an interesting conclusion as it shows the client might
actually have some control rather than just blaming the
outsourced enforcement provider.
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Re: Radison Blu hotel on Manchester airport complex
DIR By: b789
Date: November 24, 2025, 3:12 am
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We always assume that any recipient of a PCN has used common
sense and tried Plan A, which is to always get whoever contracts
the parking operator to get it cancelled.
Plans B, C and D are what we deal with here.
What you need to understand for future reference is that the
recipient of the NtK, the Keeper, should never, ever, EVER
identify the driver. Only the driver is ever liable. Unless the
operator is able to rely on PoFA 2012 to be able to transfer
liability from the unknown driver to the known Keeper, then
blabbing the drivers identity, inadvertently or otherwise, is
the proverbial shooting oneself in both feet with a single
bullet.
In this case, the location is the Radisson Hotel at Manchester
Airport which lies within the Manchester Airport boundary and is
therefore land that is subject to statutory control (airport
byelaws), which means that it is not relevant land for the
purposes of PoFA and so, had this continued to appeal and
beyond, as long as the driver is not identified, they would
eventually have nowhere to go with this PCN.
Luckily for you, your daughter has written confirmation that the
hotel has told their agent to cancel the PCN. Don't be surprised
though if ParkingEye turn around and say they will not cancel it
and they want £20 to cover their costs.
As long as there has been no admittance by the Keeper that they
were the driver (whether they were or were not), there is no
basis in law for ParkingEye to pursue the Keeper for any money.
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