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       #Post#: 98027--------------------------------------------------
       Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: bimmerfan
       Date: November 13, 2025, 11:39 am
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       Hi all, looking for some advice if I should just pay these fines
       or risk taking it to the tribunal as Lambeth council have
       rejected my representation.
       The driver unknowingly parked on a single yellow for two days
       consecutively (someone removed the sticker on windscreen on the
       first day so no knowledge of the first fine) The lines are very
       faded and were covered with construction dust as there is a big
       building site right next to where the vehicle was parked.
       Link to pcn and pictures:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cosbhkGECLerzpYdSfzKiTzT1fUxQi7w?usp=sharing
       GSV:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oFz3zZdqEawivKyQA
       
       Thank you!
       #Post#: 98066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 13, 2025, 5:36 pm
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       There are no local signs, so one must assume you are in a
       Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ).
       Is it possible to post up your representations, please. The
       rejection is their usual Fob-Off letter, which I assume has
       re-offered the discount. London councils refuse almost all
       informal challenges, because they know that people then just
       cough-up to get the discount.
       It is obvious that the yellow line is worn even without builders
       dust covering it, but if you want to fight these PCNs the
       council, (who keep all the money if you cough-up), will refuse
       all reps until you register an appeal at London Tribunals when
       they might give way, but the discount option will be long gone
       by them.
       FWIW, I think you have a reasonable case, but it is certainly
       not a "slam-dunk" win, in my opinion.
       #Post#: 98163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: bimmerfan
       Date: November 14, 2025, 8:04 am
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       I used the same appeal for both PCNs, here it is:
  HTML https://ibb.co/Q7mSRSw6
       #Post#: 98188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: November 14, 2025, 10:19 am
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       Well if the council think that is a SYL then IMO your argument
       that they are too badly degraded is reenforced because looking
       carefully they are DYL
       #Post#: 98282--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: bimmerfan
       Date: November 15, 2025, 11:30 am
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       I don't believe it is DYL, just SYL
       #Post#: 98295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 15, 2025, 1:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: bimmerfan link ---
       >
       > I don't believe it is DYL, just SYL
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All the GSV views show a SYL
       #Post#: 98845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: bimmerfan
       Date: November 19, 2025, 11:16 am
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       After viewing the GSV once again, I think I may have caught
       something of contention? On rejection letter it states: Inside a
       Controlled Zone, the information may be on Controlled Zone signs
       instead. Controlled Zone signs are like border-crossing signs:
       you will have passed one as you entered the zone. However, there
       is only a sign that the controlled zone ends, the sign where the
       controlled zone begins, is not the route that I took to park on
       the road, here is the GSV of the sign:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/LVWrLDuYoiJmxDS19
       
       There are bollards blocking vehicles from going straight from
       the CPZ start to the CPZ end, I have illustrated what I mean
       here:
  HTML https://ibb.co/jjpNWdx
       Yellow is the route I took to park, CPZ sign start indicated in
       Purple and where I parked in green, I note that there is no sign
       for CPZ start anywhere along the yellow boundary from the exit
       to where I was parked.
       Therefore, from driving through the road to where the vehicle is
       parked, there is only a sign for controlled zone ends, but at no
       where do I see a sign for controlled zone.
       Is this a feasible argument?
       #Post#: 98882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 19, 2025, 2:08 pm
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       The bottom line is that for the PCN to be valid you must have
       passed a CPZ sign. There is no sign when you enter Bond Way, the
       only way of getting to Miles Street using a car.
       And as you now have the Notice to Owner, it is a no-brainer to
       take them all the way to London Tribunals because the statutory
       discount period has ended. You need to challenge them on their
       statement about a CPZ sign because clearly there is no sign.
       Never, ever think that London councils follow the process
       correctly, or even at all; experience of this forum is they will
       be mendacious and disingenuous in every letter they send out.
       #Post#: 113666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: bimmerfan
       Date: March 18, 2026, 8:49 pm
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       Just to give an update, I took the PCNs to London Tribunals when
       Lambeth council informed the Tribunal that it will not contest
       my appeal, therefore all the PCNs were cancelled!
       #Post#: 113688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council Code 01 parked in a restricted street during
       prescribed hours - faded single yellow
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 19, 2026, 4:55 am
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       Very well done !
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