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       #Post#: 97956--------------------------------------------------
       PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street, Gilmore Pl
       (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: mitzberg
       Date: November 13, 2025, 6:06 am
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       I was parked overnight on a bay, for which parking is restricted
       between 08:00 and 18:30. So I had to move the car by 08:00.
       I arrived at my car at 07:58 on 12 Nov 2025, and went to the
       back seats where I have a flat area (big estate car) and was
       dealing with some bags and boxes. Tinted windows.
       The Parking Attendant placed a PCN at 08:05 while I was inside
       the car, neither of us noticing each other. When I exited the
       car from the back and went to the front to drive off, I saw the
       PCN on the windscreen. I looked out and saw the PA further
       ahead. I went to talk to him and he said he can't do anything,
       as once it's been served, he can't cancel it. I call this
       BS,.... if they make a mistake surely then can backtrack. I also
       argued that 20m ahead there was a bay in which you can park up
       to 08:30 and it didn't make sense that the one I was one was up
       until 08:00 anyway. PA told me he can't do anything and that I
       should appeal.
       Should I appeal? Where is the grace period?? Bay is restricted
       after 08:00 and I got a ticket at 08:05 while inside the car!
       Should I ignore andnot pay?
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       Many thanks for the help.
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       #Post#: 97958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 13, 2025, 6:12 am
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       CEOs cannot withdraw PCNs - end of.
       More to the point they must surely have seen you rooting about
       but being in the car is no defence as it's the car that's in
       contravention but it's unfair to not have words.
       Post the PCn, no redactions.
       #Post#: 97976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: mitzberg
       Date: November 13, 2025, 7:30 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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       >
       > Post the PCn, no redactions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How? I tried imgpile but it doesn't allow that kindof upload.
       And if I post a dropbox link it doesn't go thru.
       #Post#: 97977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: mitzberg
       Date: November 13, 2025, 7:31 am
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       #Post#: 97987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: lexy
       Date: November 13, 2025, 8:30 am
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       --- Quote from: mitzberg link ---
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       > Where is the grace period??
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       England has a ten-minute grace period but it doesn't apply to
       Scotland. The only rule is that councils are expected to be
       'reasonable and fair'. Five minutes is generally considered the
       bottom end of reasonable and fair.
       --- Quote from: mitzberg link ---
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       > Should I ignore andnot pay?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wouldn't recommend it. Scottish councils have powers that
       English councils don't. You'll end up with Scott & Co at your
       door and that's not pleasant.
       #Post#: 97988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: mitzberg
       Date: November 13, 2025, 8:42 am
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       --- Quote from: mitzberg link ---
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       --- End Quote ---
       What should I do then? Appeal? pay withing the 14 days?
       #Post#: 97991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 13, 2025, 8:51 am
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       Pictures were taken by the car after the PCN time showing it
       served and no sign of you or an open door so it doesn't look
       like the CEO did anything wrong or unfair.
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       #Post#: 97995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: mitzberg
       Date: November 13, 2025, 9:19 am
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       Never said the door was open. I was lying down having a wee rest
       after a rough night. The back seats are always folded flat.
       Should I appeal on the grounds that "Five minutes is generally
       considered the bottom end of reasonable and fair."?
       #Post#: 98008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Edinburgh, code 02 parked in a restricted street,
       Gilmore Pl (12 Nov 25)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 13, 2025, 10:31 am
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       If this were England we'd have a go at the 10 min law but as
       said it doesn't apply in Scotland.
       If they won't reoffer the discount after rejection you may be
       best paying this; otherwise some kind of polite ask for
       discretion would be the way to go but it seems you just conked
       out in the back!
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