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       #Post#: 97642--------------------------------------------------
       APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: whittome
       Date: November 11, 2025, 3:36 am
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       Hi all,
       I have received a parking charge notice and would like some
       advice.
       The car in question is a company car so the notice has been sent
       to the company and passed onward.
       On the 26th October the driver drove into the carpark, stopped
       to read the tariff sign and upon not liking the look of the cost
       or location opened the Ringo app to see how much the Folkestone
       Harbour was and left the car park to head there instead.
       The car can't have been in the carpark for more than 5 minutes
       and no one from the car got out of the car at any point. The car
       was then parked at the Folkestone Harbour carpark until payment
       was made at exit. The ticket wasn't kept for this, however a
       bank statement with when the harbour carpark was paid for and
       how much should hopefully be accessible.
       Here is the car park location:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/dFLsjd5ETrh9XZux6
       
       Just looking for advice on if there is anything that can be done
       other than just paying the notice.
       Thank you.
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       #Post#: 97648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: Dave65
       Date: November 11, 2025, 4:09 am
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       Is this PPN for the first or second car park?
       #Post#: 97650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: whittome
       Date: November 11, 2025, 4:13 am
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       This is for the first one that was only briefly stopped at.
       Everything with the second one (the harbour) is completely fine.
       #Post#: 97660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: November 11, 2025, 5:25 am
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       Do you have the original PCN?
       #Post#: 97664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: whittome
       Date: November 11, 2025, 5:36 am
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       The 2 pages in the google drive links are the only things I have
       at the moment.
       #Post#: 97666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: November 11, 2025, 6:04 am
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       So reading through everything... this could be the PCN.
       There isn't enough time for a third party debt collector to have
       become involved.
       The PCN is not PoFA compliant so the keeper cannot be held
       liable and they do not know who the driver was.
       #Post#: 97667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: whittome
       Date: November 11, 2025, 6:38 am
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       I won't pretend to be that clued up.
       Does that mean my next cause of action should be to appeal it on
       the grounds of not actually parking at the carpark in question?
       #Post#: 97669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: November 11, 2025, 6:40 am
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       The first thing we need to confirm is who the notice is
       addressed to - you mention this being a company car, is the
       notice addressed to the company? If so, they must respond, or,
       if you have their permission, you can fight it on the company's
       behalf.
       If it is addressed to the company then ideally, the company
       should name you as the hirer of the vehicle, resulting in you
       receiving a notice in your own name.
       #Post#: 97672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: whittome
       Date: November 11, 2025, 6:55 am
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       The letter is currently addressed to the company rather than an
       individual person. It was forwarded on by the company when they
       received it.
       #Post#: 97743--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA - Parking Charge (No payment) - Middleburg Square,
       Folkestone
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 11, 2025, 1:37 pm
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       No, the OP cannot be the 'Hirer" if it is a company vehicle. The
       OP is the day to day keeper. They can only appeal if the company
       give them a Letter of Authority (LoA) to do so. Once they have
       an LoA, they can appeal as the day to day Keeper without
       identifying the driver.
       Many companies that give company cars, allow the employee to
       have other members ion their family to drive and make use of the
       vehicle. Just because the employee is the day to day keeper does
       not mean that they were the driver. No one knows that and as the
       Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not PoFA compliant, only the driver
       can be liable.
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