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       #Post#: 12855--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: childofsai
       Date: December 23, 2023, 7:17 am
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       Hi everyone,
       I got another letter today, raising the fine:
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       My guess is that it's automated and no one has checked that I
       made an informal challenge? If so, can I tick "procedural
       impropriety"? I have the email reply proof that they received my
       challenge form, as well as the PDF export of the whole
       challenge.
       Or should I just ignore this?
       The response to the informal challenge should be received in 2
       weeks, while this increased fine needs to be paid in 4 weeks.
       Your advice is always appreciated!
       Best Regards,
       CoS
       #Post#: 12860--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: December 23, 2023, 8:27 am
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       1.  Please show the play what you wrote as the challenge.
       2.  Date of deemed service of the NtO is two working days
       counting today as one, so I make it next Wednesday.
       3.  Did they send a rejection letter?
       4.  Once I get answers, I would be happy to take this one on for
       you at the Tribunal.
       #Post#: 12964--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: childofsai
       Date: December 26, 2023, 11:05 am
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       Hi All,
       1 - this is the text that I put in the challenge:
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       2.  Date of deemed service of the NtO is two working days
       counting today as one, so I make it next Wednesday. - Apologies,
       I am confused what this means. I recieved this Notice To Owner
       as posted above on 23rd Dec. It states that I have 28 days to
       pay the higher fine, or make representations.
       I had already previously made the informal challenge, which I am
       still waiting on the response.
       3. No rejection letter has been sent yet.
       4. I honestly don't want to go through the trouble of tribunal -
       if this is the only route at this stage, I might accept it and
       pay the fine. If you can let me know, either way.
       Many thanks for your support,
       CoS
       #Post#: 12969--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 26, 2023, 4:17 pm
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       If you look on the small print of the PCN somewhere, it should
       tell you that challenges will be considered, but if they serve a
       Notice to Owner, notwithstanding those reps, then the owner must
       respond in the form and manner in the NtO.  Just because you've
       had no response to your informal reps, doesn't mean the NtO is
       invalid. You must respond to the Notice to Owner. All you have
       to do is submit the same reps and also point out you have
       already submitted reps to the PCN.
       #Post#: 12979--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: childofsai
       Date: December 27, 2023, 6:07 am
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       Many thanks for the advice. I have sent online challenge again
       today with the same explanation, and also sent the same via post
       today.
       I have included the fact that I already sent representations on
       Nov 7th to the original PCN and that I am also sending via post.
       #Post#: 12985--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: December 27, 2023, 9:27 am
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       you really should have taken Hippocrates up on his offer, this
       is easily winnable but just as easy to lose if not properly
       pursued
       #Post#: 13018--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  Harrow, code 27 parked in special area adjacent to footway,
       Pangbourne Drive
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 28, 2023, 11:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
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       > you really should have taken Hippocrates up on his offer, this
       is easily winnable but just as easy to lose if not properly
       pursued
       >
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       yep he really should have !
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