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#Post#: 97159--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: zexx
Date: November 6, 2025, 5:25 pm
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This is inside RingGo. My BB and V5, attached as proof, to last
years virual BB permit.
HTML https://lemicess.sirv.com/Home/ringgo2024%20copy.png
#Post#: 97161--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: zexx
Date: November 6, 2025, 5:28 pm
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With Motability you don't get the original log book, just
vehicle information that's held by DVLA.
[img width=1100
height=1018]
HTML https://lemicess.sirv.com/Home/v5.PNG[/img]
#Post#: 97168--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 6, 2025, 6:04 pm
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What I was wondering is if you are not displaying the physical
BB, what is checked to give you immunity in the bay.
It may be the CEO checks for a BB resident permit, which if live
is based on a valid BB. But it's the valid BB that is what
matters in this bay and they've messed up.
#Post#: 97198--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: zexx
Date: November 7, 2025, 5:37 am
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That’s exactly what I was trying to understand too. In this bay
the physical Blue Badge isn’t used at all; the CEO checks the
virtual Blue Badge resident permit on their device. If it shows
as live, that’s the immunity.
In my case the BB itself was fully valid, but their system
misplaced my uploaded documents, possibly onto an old permit.
Victoria from parking services found them, confirmed the badge
was up to date, and then authorised the renewal while I was on
the phone. So the virtual permit should have been showing as
valid at the time. The failure was entirely on their end.
#Post#: 97281--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 7, 2025, 10:18 am
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Go back to them and say the below. If they don't consider it
wait for the NTO and say the same.
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I believe the council is in a tangle over this PCN.
It was issued to my car parked in a disabled bay, for which I
have a valid blue badge giving me parking rights.
The alleged contravention is for having an invalid permit or
parking session in a resident's or shared use parking place.
My car was not in such a place, as clearly evidenced by your
CEO's pictures.
I hope this clears things up and look forward to your
cancellation of this wrongly issued PCN.
#Post#: 97306--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: zexx
Date: November 7, 2025, 12:08 pm
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Will post their reply
#Post#: 97311--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: Ducato
Date: November 7, 2025, 12:29 pm
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--- Quote from: zexx link ---
>
> With Motability you don't get the original log book, just
vehicle information that's held by DVLA.
>
>
> [img width=1100
height=1018]
HTML https://lemicess.sirv.com/Home/v5.PNG[/img]
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1004]zexx[/member]
Apologies for an off topic question, is this info a scan from a
paper document or from a web site?
I've been trying to find a way to check the taxation class info
for vehicles in the past and to date have never found the info
available anywhere online so if this is from a web site do you
have a link to it please?
#Post#: 97350--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 7, 2025, 3:20 pm
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'Disabled bay outside my house'.
You got it right first time.
This has NOTHING to do with permits. As the applicable traffic
sign confirms, this is simply about a disabled bay.
Were you in contravention? yes.
Of what? Being parked in a disabled bay without displaying a
....in the prescribed manner'.
What is 'the prescribed manner'?
Manner in which a badge is to be displayed
12. For the purposes of section 21(4A) of the 1970 Act a
disabled person’s badge is displayed on a vehicle in the
prescribed manner if–
(a)the badge is exhibited on the dashboard or facia of the
vehicle, or
(b)where the vehicle is not fitted with a dashboard or facia,
the badge is exhibited in a conspicuous position on the vehicle,
so that the front of the badge is clearly legible from the
outside of the vehicle.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/682
The council is on a loser.
The contravention (the nonsense about permits) did not occur;
there is NO provision within the law for virtual BB.
#Post#: 97362--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 7, 2025, 5:37 pm
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That's why I was wondering how they are letting you park in the
disabled bay.
I think you need to display your BB - you can't assume that
tomorrow they won't ticket and even tow your car to the pound
(sorry to be alarmist but this council does this).
Whatever, you won't be paying this PCN.
#Post#: 97369--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Disabled Bay Outside My Home – Renewal Confusion
DIR By: zexx
Date: November 7, 2025, 8:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Ducato link ---
>
> [quote author=zexx link=topic=8670.msg97161#msg97161
date=1762471694]
> With Motability you don't get the original log book, just
vehicle information that's held by DVLA.
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=1004]zexx[/member]
Apologies for an off topic question, is this info a scan from a
paper document or from a web site?
I've been trying to find a way to check the taxation class info
for vehicles in the past and to date have never found the info
available anywhere online so if this is from a web site do you
have a link to it please?
[/quote]
That image is taken from a pdf of that I had to request from
here
HTML https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/during-your-lease/cars-wavs/request-your-v5c
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