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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 5, 2024, 5:21 pm
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Attached to imgur are the screenshots showing my appeal being
rejected, conversation with FirstPort & VCS..
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mvx3RJl
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 5, 2024, 5:23 pm
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It’s my friend & I told him I’d deal with it as I thought it
would be it quick issue to resolve. I’ve not once stated that I
am the driver but have been communicating that it would be my
permit. The permits aren’t linked to a specific reg number. The
visitor permits & resident permits are issued at same time.
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 5, 2024, 5:29 pm
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What exactly was submitted as the appeal?
The online forms for appealing usually ask you to select an
option from a drop down list explaining your relationship to the
vehicle. What did you select?
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 5, 2024, 5:38 pm
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There was an option to state that I have the right to park
there. Added comment about the permit situation & seems they
acknowledged this on the acknowledgment of the appeal.
I had consent from my friend to act on his behalf so I believe I
ticked a box to that extent.
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 5, 2024, 5:40 pm
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This is their rejection of it. Asking me to send them a valid
permit when I’ve had written confirmation from VCS that they
hadn’t even sent out the new permits (to firstport not
residents) until end November so it’s plain impossible. This led
me to believe they didn’t even read my appeal properly.
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 6, 2024, 3:27 am
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There's a risk you may have made things rather complicated.
It's unfortunate that we don't have the exact text of your
appeal.
You mentioned that you didn't at any point state that you were
the driver. Flipping that question, have you said explicitly to
VCS at any point (and in the appeal) that you were not the
driver?
Otherwise, appealing a parking charge issued to someone else in
your own name on the grounds that "I had the right to park
there" risks making a pretty strong implication that you were
the one who parked.
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 6, 2024, 4:06 am
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I guess no, I’ve never said I’m not the driver. I agreed to
fight this for my friend as I kinda gave him the go ahead as I
was aware that we’re awaiting permits / visitor permits so
thought it wouldn’t be an issue. I even contacted VCS straight
away after my friend received the PCN & stated the permit issue
and they said on the phone that this would be a valid appeal.
It’s clear at some point that they changed the address for
communications from my friends address, got through DVLA, to
mine - listed on the appeal.
What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 6, 2024, 4:08 am
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The issue isn’t the parking. The issue I believe is that there
would be no issue if they had issued the permits out on time.
VCS confirmed they hadn’t even sent out the permits until late
November so that gave just under 2 months (from early October
expiry of permits) of not a single person having a valid permit
in the entire car park.
Is it not reasonable to assume that parking enforcement can’t be
enforced during this period?
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 6, 2024, 4:26 am
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> What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?
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For one, stopping VCS from believing you were, which seems to be
the case at present.
An issue at present is that VCS are pursuing you for a parking
charge that (contractually speaking) is nothing to do with you.
The reason for that would seem to be that they think you were
the driver. My worry is that 'your' appeal has misled them into
believing this, in which case you could find yourself having a
lot of explaining to do if they proceed to court.
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Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
DIR By: Neftlix
Date: January 6, 2024, 4:29 am
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Yeah okay. I’ll confirm it in an email to them. I clearly put
that I have permission to represent my friend on the appeal so
I’ll reconfirm that. I’ve managed to get Vanessa from FirstPort
mobile number so will give her a ring on Monday as she should be
able to sort this out.
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