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Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: lhtraff Date: November 4, 2025, 4:13 am
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Please help,
On leaving a dual carriageway, 60 speed, there is a national
speed limit sign at the entrance to a roundabout.
The left turn has its own slip lane which then turn into two. I
began accelerating to 60 and moved to overtake vehicle, looking
for clear space. Mine is electric, so it accelerates quickly.
However, within 30 metres there is a 30 sign, that is actually
occluded partially by 2 lampposts.
On seeing the 30, I began to reduce speed, caught at 42, down to
32, in next picture 40 mtrs later.
Is it likely I appeal on the grounds that the signage / road
structure is setting people up to break the speed limit?
Apparently, it is a zone of frequent speeding, and I can now see
why!
Thanks in advance for help.
L
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Re: Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: FuzzyDuck Date: November 4, 2025, 4:26 am
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You can only appeal a conviction or a sentence, I suspect you
are not at this stage yet.
Have you named the driver yet? This must be done to avoid the
far worse offence of failing to name and must be done regardless
of any issue you might have with the alleged offence.
Once the identity of the driver has been established, the
authorities will normally (depending on speed and limit) offer a
speed awareness course (England and Wales only) or a fixed
penalty. If you think you have a defence for the offence, you
would have to ignore any offer and allow the matter to go to
court. At this point you could plead not guilty and present your
defence.
Entrapment really isn't a thing here, it's possible that the
signage issues may offer a defence but without seeing it first
hand it is impossible to say how strong a case you may have.
#Post#: 96728--------------------------------------------------
Re: Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: NewJudge Date: November 4, 2025, 4:27 am
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If you think the signage is deficient you can decline (or
ignore) any out-of-court offers the police might make. They will
then prosecute you in court where you can plead Not Guilty.
You will have to convince the court that the limit was not
adequately conveyed. If you fail and are convicted you will see
no change from £1,000.
Presumably you were not stopped at the time and have received a
"Request for driver's details". You must respond to this within
the 28 days allowed regardless of any challenges you might make
to speeding allegation. Failure to do so will see you commit a
more serious offence which carries six points.
Could you post a GSV link of the location? It might help portray
the situation more clearly.
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Re: Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: FuzzyDuck Date: November 4, 2025, 4:56 am
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Also bear in mine that if there a system of streetlights, the
absence of any other limit to the contrary would indicate a 30
MPH limit.
#Post#: 97068--------------------------------------------------
Re: Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: lhtraff Date: November 6, 2025, 8:28 am
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THank you all very much for taking the time write with
information and advice. I very much appreciate your help.
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Re: Signage - possible speeding entrapment - Advice pls
By: JustLoveCars Date: November 6, 2025, 9:09 am
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[quote author=lhtraff link=topic=8644.msg97068#msg97068
date=1762439319]
THank you all very much for taking the time write with
information and advice. I very much appreciate your help.
[/quote]...and the location is?
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