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Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
DIR By: dwanyedibley
Date: November 3, 2025, 9:28 am
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Can anyone help with this? My parents are not from London and
received this PCN through the post saying they entered a bus
lane. I've not driven in London for a long time and well are of
bus lanes cannot be entered by cars but I have never seen a
whole road dedicated to a bus lane before!?
I have zoomed in on the image and the only thing I can possibly
see is a small blue bus image on a pole with times on it, does
this mean ONLY buses are allowed to go down that road at all
during that time? Would we have grounds to appeal on basis the
signage was not big enough?
Imo, it should also have the word ONLY at the bottom of the sign
if we are going by the letter of the law!
I can add the PCN if it helps but any help appreciated as this
feels strong to pay £80!!
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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 3, 2025, 10:01 am
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Yes it's a bus gate at those times.
I don't think the signage is adequate but adjudicators have
found it OK - see a case towards the end of this thread:
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The OP in that thread though has a good case on not being to see
as being on a m/c behind a vehicle.
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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 3, 2025, 2:01 pm
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ONLY is no linger required.
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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
DIR By: markie76
Date: November 5, 2025, 11:06 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> Yes it's a bus gate at those times.
>
> I don't think the signage is adequate but adjudicators have
found it OK - see a case towards the end of this thread:
>
>
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> The OP in that thread though has a good case on not being to
see as being on a m/c behind a vehicle.
>
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It's curious as along TCR there are four 'bus gates';
2 have a sign on each side of the road.
2 have a single sign.
Some have an arrow painted on the carriageway.
Don't remember if any had any 'advance warning' when I walked
along TCR.
At junction of Howland Road;
In addition just one of the ATS has the 'turn left' blue arrow
and guess which one I was looking at?
(yes the one the local authority have not included any
photographs of in their evidence pack)
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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 5, 2025, 11:14 am
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Is the restriction preceded by warning signs? If so, let's see
it/them pl.
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