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#Post#: 96609--------------------------------------------------
NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: Martyn21uk
Date: November 3, 2025, 7:34 am
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Posting on behalf of my girlfriend...
She has received a NIP for doing 62 in a 50. She has previously
done a speed awareness course approximately xx years ago.
The car is leased so obviously it went to the lease company
first and has therefore taken longer than 14 days to get issued
to her. However, date of the offence is 26/06/2025 and the dare
of the NIP is 16/10/2025. 4 months seems very long for that
process to happen, is this normal / acceptable?
I guess the answer is to just complete the S172 and take the
medicine of 3 points and a fine. But wanted to check in with
you guys first.
TIA
#Post#: 96614--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: AntonyMMM
Date: November 3, 2025, 8:15 am
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It is a longer delay than most, but of no relevance to the
process. It may well have gone to a finance company first,
adding another step in the chain. Worth checking that the lease
company has her full/correct/up to date address for any further
incidents.
--- Quote from: Martyn21uk link ---
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> She has previously done a speed awareness course approximately
xx years ago.
>
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Depending on the meaning of "xx" she may have qualified for
another course, but the delay in receiving the notification
probably rules that out.
--- Quote from: Martyn21uk link ---
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> I guess the answer is to just complete the S172 and take the
medicine of 3 points and a fine.
>
--- End Quote ---
Correct
#Post#: 96626--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: November 3, 2025, 9:34 am
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> However, date of the offence is 26/06/2025 and the dare of the
NIP is 16/10/2025. 4 months seems very long for that process to
happen, is this normal / acceptable?
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Far from being abnormal or unacceptable, there is no
requirement to send a NIP to her at all. The only requirement is
to send one to the Registered Keeper.
With an offence date of 26th June, she may now be too late to be
offered either a course or a fixed penalty. Most police forces
have a cut off of four months as they must begin any prosecution
within six months. Responses after that cut off will see them
begin a prosecution.
All she can do is respond to the s172 pronto and hope for the
best
#Post#: 96631--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: Martyn21uk
Date: November 3, 2025, 9:49 am
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--- Quote from: AntonyMMM link ---
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> Depending on the meaning of "xx" she may have qualified for
another course, but the delay in receiving the notification
probably rules that out.
>
>
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Ah sorry, I had written it and was waiting for her to come back
to me on when she did her course. It was October 2023 so I
guess that means she won't be offered a case this time round?
We'll get the S172 completed and she can take her medicine!
#Post#: 96646--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: November 3, 2025, 10:59 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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> With an offence date of 26th June, she may now be too late to
be offered either a course or a fixed penalty. Most police
forces have a cut off of four months as they must begin any
prosecution within six months. Responses after that cut off will
see them begin a prosecution.
>
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If this happens, i.e. the next thing you get is a SJP, then it
is worth asking that she is sentenced at the Fixed Penalty rate
(rather than the usual multiple of earnings plus all the
extras). The magistrates' guidelines say this should be case
when the delay is purely administrative and out of the control
of the Defendant.
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Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: Martyn21uk
Date: November 4, 2025, 6:16 am
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--- Quote from: The Slithy Tove link ---
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> [quote author=NewJudge link=topic=8637.msg96626#msg96626
date=1762184040]
> With an offence date of 26th June, she may now be too late to
be offered either a course or a fixed penalty. Most police
forces have a cut off of four months as they must begin any
prosecution within six months. Responses after that cut off will
see them begin a prosecution.
>
--- End Quote ---
If this happens, i.e. the next thing you get is a SJP, then it
is worth asking that she is sentenced at the Fixed Penalty rate
(rather than the usual multiple of earnings plus all the
extras). The magistrates' guidelines say this should be case
when the delay is purely administrative and out of the control
of the Defendant.
[/quote]
Thanks for the heads up, that seems like a sensible approach.
We'll complete the S172 later today and will come back if any
other issues. Thanks
#Post#: 96782--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: peodude
Date: November 4, 2025, 9:32 am
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The offence will time out on 26/12/25 so you may want to leave
it to the last minute to send it back. You're a little short,
but depending on the date of the COFP, if they issue one, then
you may or may not be in the clear.
#Post#: 96786--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: Martyn21uk
Date: November 4, 2025, 9:51 am
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Okay so correct me if I am misunderstanding but this is the
predicament.
The police have 6 months from the date of the offence to start
proceedings, otherwise it will time out. However, to combat
that, most police forces will start from 4 months and if the
ducks aren't in line, just go straight to SJP in the interest of
not letting it time out.
So we can either respond the S172 asap to try and ensure we get
in there before the police go straight to SJP. Or we can
slowball it, complete it on day 28 from the NIP we have received
and hope they aren't on top of everything and ultimately it
times out.
I guess it would come down to whether or not you feel lucky...
Well do you punk?
#Post#: 96799--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP recieved 62 in a 50
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: November 4, 2025, 10:55 am
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Correct, both the understanding, and unusually, the film quote.
Proceedings are generally instigated a few days before the 6
month time out, but the "decision" as to whether or not to issue
a COFP or not is often taken nearer to the 4 month mark.
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