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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: slapdash
Date: March 31, 2024, 7:52 am
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With the written word the adjudicator has to decide its meaning
in the event of any uncertainty. There is no opportunity for
those areas to be clarified.
In a personal hearing the opportunity exists to clarify these
areas.
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 31, 2024, 9:19 am
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I see - thanks
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 31, 2024, 7:52 pm
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--- Quote from: BH1001 link ---
>
> Can I ask why a personal hearing is preferable to a postal
one?
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--- End Quote ---
To avoid the sort of disaster you see in these threads:
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=149680
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/warwickshire-cc-pcn-code-24-not-within-markings-of-bay-lakin-road-warwick/msg5240/#msg5240
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: April 1, 2024, 7:01 am
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Okay thanks for the heads up
#Post#: 19261--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: April 8, 2024, 3:26 am
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Quick update:
I've received a letter from TfL notifiying me that they are
cancelling the 2nd PCN due to an 'administrative error'.
I've requested a telephone hearing for the original PCN (i.e.
the one that I've posted up) and I'm awaiting confirmation of
the date and time
#Post#: 19314--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 8, 2024, 12:11 pm
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[member=390]BH1001[/member] can you please post up the notice of
rejection, and the case history from evidence item D? There
might be a flaw in the notice of rejection word that we can
exploit.
If you don't have the evidence in PDF form, you can call the
tribunal and they will email it to you on request.
#Post#: 19558--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: April 12, 2024, 7:26 am
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Okay
I called the London Tribunal and I've been informed that they
have not been notified by TfL that one of the PCN's was being
cancelled. I had to point to advisor to the paragraph in the
Case Summary document which makes reference to this. The
advisor said that they will be informing their line manager of
this development. I had called for a copy of the letter that
TfL sent notifying me that this PCN had been cancelled but,
naturally, they have not been able to provide this as TfL have
failed to inform them of this development. Unfortunately my OH
tossed the letter away so I do not have a copy myself. I do
recall that they had said that an administrative error had been
made and that they had informed the London Tribunal of this, but
that has turned out not to be the case. I've requested a copy
of that letter from TfL and they've told me that a copy has been
generated and will be sent in the post - I'll post a copy of
that up when it arrives.
The advisor was also able to share that the hearing has been
scheduled for 24th of this month and that a letter is in the
post confirming this - it hasn't arrived yet but as soon as it
does I will post those details here as well.
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 14, 2024, 6:12 pm
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[member=390]BH1001[/member] sorry to tell you but you're taking
a bit of an old-fashioned approach to everything, it is 2024
after all.
First and foremost, call the tribunal first thing and ask them
to change the comms preference from post to email, this way
you'll get updates from the tribunal at the same time as TFL,
rather than a week or so later (Royal Mail isn't what it used to
be
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67401045).
You can then ask
them to email you a copy of the scheduling letter and you'll get
it immediately, rather than some time maybe never.
Secondly as for the cancelled PCN, you can simply look it up on
HTML https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/challenge-a-pcn
(if it's
cancelled, take a screenshot).
I had also asked to see the notice of rejection because some of
TFL's wording is flawed, see these cases:
Nayeem Haque v Transport for London (2220767288, 15 November
2022)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KavlK0nNvWS2eI9ICkqjBQRg9-L-2mHc/view
Mike Welch v Transport for London (2230428700, 18 November 2023)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ijJW4O3zHz-LOkVRi4QHmdf983n1yyJ8/view
Lubavitch Synagogue v Transport for London (2230535074, 5
February 2024)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xokOkjdoJf0e5CBjBP7smnErCrMxps0m/view
Commercial Plant Services Ltd v Transport for London
(2240018512, 12 February 2024)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qwj3XYfPvFZBh-ag3HYuQEUHtFXwxvHf/view
Mathew Mathai v Transport for London (2240062219, 15 March 2024)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QoDnU5djhqtHMDDHbPiHIhVOC7KmHxIZ/view
However I cannot check if this applies to your case as you've
not shown us the notice of rejection, so please upload it so
that we can take a look.
#Post#: 19736--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: April 15, 2024, 6:37 am
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Another thing I didn't know I could/should do - you live and
learn ;)
I have found the PCN on the website and it is confirmed there
that it has been cancelled. I have requested a copy of the
rejection letter and been advised that this is in the post.
I've updated my comms preferences and received the following by
email
"Please be advised your hearing will now be conducted via
telephone call as per your request. The adjudicator will call
you on 24/04/2024 at 10:30 to proceed with the hearing".
How do we arrange for an advocate/advisor to be on the call?
#Post#: 19886--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: April 18, 2024, 4:33 am
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Here's the letter - interesting that it mentions my
representations when I never actually appealed this one
HTML https://imgur.com/a/U1KH6We
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