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#Post#: 17143--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 11, 2024, 11:43 am
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I've drafted this for my appeal to the adjudicator - does anyone
have any comments or suggestions before I send it in?
"I am appealing TfL’s decision to reject my appeal on the
following grounds:
TfL’s response is inappropriate as it relies upon an assumption
on their part that the driver of a vehicle will always know
where the ULEZ enforcement zones are situated in relation to
their current location. This is plainly illogical, and is all
the more inappropriate in this case, given the fact that, as I
have already stated to them, I had lost my bearings and didn’t
know which road I was on as I approached and then entered the
charging zone.
I reiterate my view that the signage was problematic as one sign
was placed too high up on the post to be easily read (see image)
particularly when approached from an oblique angle, as was the
case when I approached the junction with Sheepbarn Lane and
Skidhill Lane where the entry point to the charging zone is
situated. The other sign at the junction not only points away
from Skidhill Lane (see image) but is also some distance from
the road and would therefore have been impossible for me to see
as I approached the junction from Skidhill Lane (see image). The
junction with Sheepbarn Lane and Skidhill Lane is a busy one and
it is hazardous to be both checking for traffic and trying to
check for ULEZ warning signs which are poorly located and very
difficult, if not impossible to see.
I would also like to draw the adjudicator's attention to the
fact that there was no ‘type D’ signage on Skidhill Lane which
would have alerted me to the fact that I was approaching the
charging zone had it been installed there."
#Post#: 17224--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 13, 2024, 12:08 pm
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I'm just going to submit this as clearly nobody has got any
thoughts or comments that they would like to share
Thanks for the support
#Post#: 17229--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 13, 2024, 1:26 pm
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People give their time free on this forum, and have to earn a
living as well, so sometimes responses aren't as quick as one
would like.
I'm not sure "inappropriate" is strong enough, but I'm
struggling to think of a stronger word; maybe "ill-considered".
Of course you could be rude and say it is "total tosh".
Other than that, OK
#Post#: 17582--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 18, 2024, 11:08 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> People give their time free on this forum, and have to earn a
living as well, so sometimes responses aren't as quick as one
would like
--- End Quote ---
No I do appreciate that and I'm very grateful for the support
provided here, it was just that the deadline was looming and as
I hadn't heard anything I decided I was just going to have to go
ahead and submit it anyway.
In the process of doing that, I have realised that TfL have
listed two PCN's on the Notice of Appeal pro forma, and although
I do have two penalties outstanding, I have only lodged one
appeal with them (i.e. the one that this thread is concerned
with). Is this an administrative error on their part and if so
should I inform the adjudicator that I am only applying to the
tribunal in respect of the first PCN and not the second?
#Post#: 18589--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 30, 2024, 1:24 pm
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[member=390]BH1001[/member] if they've rejected representations
in respect of a PCN against which representations had not been
made, that is a serious departure from the statutory
requirements.
Please can you confirm what's happened so far with your appeal?
#Post#: 18633--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 31, 2024, 4:37 am
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I've received a notification from the adjudicator that the case
(regarding both PCN's) has been allocated to a postal hearing
#Post#: 18635--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 31, 2024, 4:56 am
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--- Quote from: BH1001 link ---
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> I've received a notification from the adjudicator that the
case (regarding both PCN's) has been allocated to a postal
hearing
>
--- End Quote ---
The standard advice on this forum is never, ever, opt for a
postal hearing. You cna telephone the Tribunal on Tuesday and
ask for it to be changed to personal/telephone.
As you case seems quite complicated, hopefully one of the kind
experts here will be along soon with an offer to represent you.
#Post#: 18639--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 31, 2024, 5:36 am
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Oh I see
I hadn't realised and nobody mentioned this when I posted my
appeal here for the experts to review
You live and learn!
#Post#: 18647--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: Neil B
Date: March 31, 2024, 6:54 am
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Your personal hearing can be held over the phone if you ask
them.
#Post#: 18650--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 31, 2024, 7:13 am
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Can I ask why a personal hearing is preferable to a postal one?
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