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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: January 5, 2024, 9:13 am
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> Both the Wilcox adjudication and one of the DfT authorisations
are on file on this site.
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Could someone please provide a link to the DfT authorisations?
I've looked everywhere and cannot find it :-\
#Post#: 16911--------------------------------------------------
Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 6, 2024, 7:52 am
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Hi
Predictably TFL have rejected my appeal
Can anyone advise on how to escalate to the adjudicator?
I'm wondering which grounds I can appeal on - 'no penalty charge
is payable under the charging scheme' seems to be the closest on
the grounds that the signage was unclear and poorly situated.
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 6, 2024, 9:47 am
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> Unfortunately I have already submitted my representations as
it was getting a bit tight for time.
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> Predictably TFL have rejected my appeal
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For meaningful advice please post your reps and the letter of
rejection.
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 7, 2024, 9:08 am
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I'm just trying to retrieve my representations from TfL - I
don't seem to have kept a copy which it a bit remiss I admit.
Once I have that I'll post it up here along with their letter of
rejection...
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 7, 2024, 9:12 am
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If you cannot find you rerps post up best you can from memory.
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 7, 2024, 10:14 am
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My arguments were basically as follows
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> The bottom of the sign is over 10 feet from ground level and
therefore it is very difficult to see it clearly from the
driver's perspective when turning right from Skid Hill Lane into
Sheepbarn Lane, and because of the oblique angle of the sign and
the height of it, it is impossible to see it at all once you've
joined the road, (unless you are driving a convertible!)
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> There are no warning signs to be seen when approaching the
junction along Skid Hill Lane so drivers are relying solely on
that one sign that has been put up on the opposite side of the
road, 10+ metres high and at an oblique angle when viewed from
the road you are joining the ULEZ from - please see link to
pictures
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/x6LoZOK
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Letter of rejection to follow
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 7, 2024, 4:10 pm
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Letter of rejection here:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/Fuo6QH0
My initial thoughts are (as per P2 para 2) how would it be
possible for me to "make (myself) aware of any charges, tolls or
other restrictions that may be in existence along along (my)
route" if, as I have already informed them, I had got lost and
didn't know where I was?
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 7, 2024, 6:49 pm
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It's the usual tosh we see so often from councils and also
Transport for London. Of course you knew about the existence of
the ULEZ, but the reason signs are put up is because it is
clearly impossible to know every single one of the exact entry
points into the zone. TfL seem to be saying just because you
knew there was a ULEZ, you should know when you've entered it.
What tosh !!
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 8, 2024, 1:44 am
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Exactly, but all the more so when you've lost your bearings and
are driving on unfamiliar back lanes
I'm assuming this is a stock response
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Re: ULEZ non payment PCN Main Road Biggin Hill
DIR By: BH1001
Date: March 8, 2024, 3:17 am
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Could I also argue that the signage was inadequate due to the
absence of a type D sign (as specified in DfT authorisation
GT50/139/0183) on the road along which I approached the junction
where the entry point to the charging zone was situated?
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