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#Post#: 96482--------------------------------------------------
APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: dombooth
Date: November 1, 2025, 7:26 pm
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Hi,
Thanks in advance for the help and advice.
The keeper had tickets to see a show at the Arena on the 10th
October, and booked parking online. Unfortunately the keeper
messed up and accidently booked parking for the evening of the
11th October.
Charge front:
HTML https://ibb.co/DD4TMpsX
Charge rear:
HTML https://ibb.co/1YYL56gn
Parking booking:
HTML https://ibb.co/FbBG81Kr
#Post#: 96509--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: Dave65
Date: November 2, 2025, 5:43 am
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Incident date 10-10-2025
PCN issued 27-10-2025
Not delivered within the 14 days to claim against the keeper.
Do not divulge the ID of the driver.
#Post#: 96549--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: b789
Date: November 2, 2025, 1:34 pm
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As long as the driver is not identified, they cannot hold the
Keeper liable. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper
(the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the
identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions
can be made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which
means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot
transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the
known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove
anything from it:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 96563--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: dombooth
Date: November 2, 2025, 4:25 pm
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Thanks guys, is there any merit in including the fact the keeper
paid for the wrong day? Or adding what Dave mentioned above?
#Post#: 96565--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: b789
Date: November 2, 2025, 5:46 pm
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If APCOA don't cancel with the advised appeal, then POPLA will.
Just do it!
#Post#: 96567--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 3, 2025, 1:47 am
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--- Quote from: dombooth link ---
>
> Thanks guys, is there any merit in including the fact the
keeper paid for the wrong day? Or adding what Dave mentioned
above?
>
--- End Quote ---
APCOA don’t get the money you paid, right day or wrong day.
The point by [member=1555]Dave65[/member] is your appeal point.
You only need to elaborate if it goes to POPLA.
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Re: APCOA - no valid payment / permit - Utilita Arena Birmingham
DIR By: dombooth
Date: November 12, 2025, 4:59 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> If APCOA don't cancel with the advised appeal, then POPLA
will. Just do it!
>
--- End Quote ---
They cancelled. :D ;D
Thank you!
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