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#Post#: 96228--------------------------------------------------
Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: ticketed_off
Date: October 30, 2025, 2:05 pm
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HTML https://highways-news.com/drivers-outraged-as-islington-introduces-temporary-10mph-speed-limit/
Zero surprise as to where, but some surprise this has actually
been painted and the LA don't seem to have said this is
advisory.
I'd be very interested to know if there is actually any legal
basis for this 'speed limit' (beyond the obvious implications on
due care offences), whether this is a Wandsworth style attempt
to impose a civil speed limit, or just advisory (in which case
surely a rectangular sign would be more appropriate.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
#Post#: 96281--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 31, 2025, 5:18 am
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Knowing St John Street as I do, I should think many drivers
would be more than happy to be able to do 10mph. ;D
I suppose so long as they have a TRO in place and the signage
conveys the limit adequately, there should be no problem.
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Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 31, 2025, 5:43 am
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It's a short bit of St John's Street where there are roadworks.
Lots of pedestrians and cyclists and it's inside the congestion
charge zone.
The whole of Islington is a 20mph zone.
#Post#: 96293--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: typefish
Date: October 31, 2025, 6:24 am
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> I suppose so long as they have a TRO in place and the signage
conveys the limit adequately, there should be no problem.
>
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I don't see the use of convoy vehicles, nor do I think the DfT
would have signed off on this. I'd say that this is
unenforceable, but naturally one would need to check with the
DfT first.
#Post#: 96385--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 31, 2025, 6:00 pm
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> ...nor do I think the DfT would have signed off on this.
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Would they have to?
#Post#: 97551--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: ticketed_off
Date: November 10, 2025, 6:46 am
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As there has been a second round of media interest on this
'limit' (despite neither the media, nor the council saying
anything new) which has included fresh use of the term
'restriction', I have submitted an FOI to find out more about
the legal basis for the restriction.
To my mind if this is actually driving 'advice' or a 'request'
from the council, rectangular "Max Speed" signs ought to have
been used.
I had thought that DfT approval was needed for anything other
than 20-70 limits with round numbers (hence the City of London
failed in their attempt to enforce a 15mph limit - so there are
now rectangular 'Max Speed' signs which give it as advice
instead). I wasn't sure if that was to do with TSRGD or wider
TRO limitations.
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Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: typefish
Date: November 12, 2025, 2:58 pm
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--- Quote from: ticketed_off link ---
>
> As there has been a second round of media interest on this
'limit' (despite neither the media, nor the council saying
anything new) which has included fresh use of the term
'restriction', I have submitted an FOI to find out more about
the legal basis for the restriction.
>
> To my mind if this is actually driving 'advice' or a 'request'
from the council, rectangular "Max Speed" signs ought to have
been used.
>
> I had thought that DfT approval was needed for anything other
than 20-70 limits with round numbers (hence the City of London
failed in their attempt to enforce a 15mph limit - so there are
now rectangular 'Max Speed' signs which give it as advice
instead). I wasn't sure if that was to do with TSRGD or wider
TRO limitations.
>
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If there actually is a TRO, you wouldn't need to put in a FOI
request, you could get it substantially quicker by just emailing
or calling the relevant department at the City of London
Corporation
#Post#: 98386--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 16, 2025, 10:46 am
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--- Quote from: typefish link ---
>
> If there actually is a TRO, you wouldn't need to put in a FOI
request, you could get it substantially quicker by just emailing
or calling the relevant department at the City of London
Corporation
>
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Why would the City of London have a traffic order for a road in
Islington?
#Post#: 100715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: ticketed_off
Date: December 2, 2025, 10:04 am
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Update - it's advisory.
You requested the following information:
Whether the 10mph 'restriction' recently placed on St John
Street during roadworks is
advisory/recommended or legally mandated?
Response: The 10mph indication around the worksite on St John
Street is a temporary and
advisory limit, due to be in place for the duration of the
works. It is not legally mandated.
If advisory - I request disclosure of any information that logs
the decision taken to brand
this as a 'restriction' rather than a 'recommendation', and the
reasons why it was taken.
Response: No decision was taken to brand this as a “restriction”
rather than a
“recommendation”. The word “restriction” was first used by the
press in an enquiry and was
therefore repeated in the council’s response to help clarify our
answer.
Begs the question whether road markings with a number in a
circle are suitable for an advisory limit. Surely rectangular
"Max speed" signs should have been used instead?
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Re: Islington Council "10mph limit"
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 2, 2025, 11:03 am
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The road is going to be closed off and it will be a pedestrian
area with access road. No one is going to be driving through
there when the scheme is finished.
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