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       #Post#: 96174--------------------------------------------------
       Oxford congestion charges starts
       By: d612 Date: October 30, 2025, 7:55 am
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       Just a heads up
       The Oxford congestion charge started this week.
       The rules are complex as an usual my disclaimler here is that
       you need to review the OCC websites for the exact terms rules
       etc and not rely on the broad rough summary below:
       By and large is a 7am to 7pm
       It applies to cars only. Commercial vehicles are exempt.
       No idea about Camper vans......lots of issues for private cars
       used for commercial purposes and the hoops to go though to
       register them: business evidence etc.
       Resident of the central area are exempt
       Residents of the suburbs get 100 permits per year.
       Residents of rest of the county get 25 permits per year.
       Blue badge holders (having registered their car) are exempt
       No idea how it is meant to work when a car owned by a abled
       bodied resident entitling them to 25 permits is used to give a
       lift to a blue badge holder into the city which should be an
       exempt trip.
       Once you have gone though the camera once and used up a permit
       you can go back and fro any number of times without any
       additional permit used up... but see below for complications.
       If you are not entitled to some form of exemption for the day
       then its £5.
       All of this produces some strange anomolies.
       If you have two cars of which you are the keeper then you can
       register both to have your 25 permits. If however you
       re-register the DVLA keeper of your second car as another member
       of the houshold then you can get 25 permits for each car: so
       your household now has a total of 50 permits. There is a limit
       to how many cars per household that can be regstered.
       If you have two cars registered to you and use one in the
       morning to drive in that is one permits used up.  If you use it
       again in the afternoon that is still covered by your permit
       usage from the morning.  BUT if you use your other car in the
       afternoon then that is another seperate permit used up.
       So far I gather OCC has registered around 50K cars/permits so
       far.  You need to supply personal/address ID and copies of the
       vehicle V5 registered at your address to prove you are the
       keeper and hence your entitlement if applicable to a permit at
       either the exempt, 100 permits, 25 permit level.
       #Post#: 96199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford congestion charges starts
       By: Boomer Date: October 30, 2025, 10:55 am
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       ...so the administration of this scheme will cost an absolute
       fortune, will make naff all difference to the air quality (oops,
       congestion) but they will make gazzilions out of the fines.
       Sounds like Oxford is turning into Khan's London :(
       #Post#: 96368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Oxford congestion charges starts
       By: d612 Date: October 31, 2025, 2:38 pm
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       Natural progression in stages
       First we get the LTN's where rat runs are closed to through
       traffic forcing everything onto other roads making them now
       clogged up all day.
       We are now at the next stage of trying to force a reduction in
       the traffic levels through "fines".
       As you say it getting out of hand. Those living in a LTN road
       are generally delighted as traffic has dropped to near zero,
       while those on the other roads are furious. Meanwhile builders
       and indeed myself on one occassion no longer bother and simply
       park illegally and get the fine and add it to the bill: which in
       itself suggests that the fines are too low if it becomes simply
       another cost of doing business. All this quite apart from the
       cost of parking legally in the first place if you can find a
       place.
       The stated objective of this congestion charge is to stop people
       driving across the city so you can avoid it by driving out to
       the ring road, round that and then back in to where you want to
       go, so its not a true 'ring of steel'. At a cost of course of
       added congestion on the ring roads.
       How it all work out depends on how many permits the locals use
       up and how much they want the convience of afterwards simply
       paying £5 vs that of having to drive out, round and back again,
       vs the obvious one of not bothering and staying at home instead.
       The council are at the same time making all the park and rides -
       or rather the Ride bit free with a valid park part ticket.
       Previously you both paid to park and paid to take the bus in.
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