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#Post#: 10253--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: November 14, 2023, 5:44 pm
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I had another look again this afternoon. The sign that I was
facing has a car parked partly on the pavement with a red line
through it. Presuming this means 'no parking on the pavement';
that is what I was doing.
If, as you say there is no requirement to have the sign for each
bay - the fact that there is the sign, does it not just
reinforce the rule? Somewhere there must be a sign saying you
can park within the markings on the pavement, but as I said I
was partially outside the marked area.
Do you really think Barnet would cancel the charge if it was
discretionary on their powers? They would want to get as much
money in as they can! Do you believe that the fact that I ask
them to turn up the relevant statutes, mean they will think they
can't be bothered, ie too much hassle?
#Post#: 10259--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 14, 2023, 6:03 pm
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--- Quote from: I-LOV-MONEY link ---
>
> If, as you say there is no requirement to have the sign for
each bay - the fact that there is the sign, does it not just
reinforce the rule? Somewhere there must be a sign saying you
can park within the markings on the pavement, but as I said I
was partially outside the marked area.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, it's the sign you photographed which you attached to post
18 above.
--- Quote from: I-LOV-MONEY link ---
>
> Do you really think Barnet would cancel the charge if it was
discretionary on their powers? They would want to get as much
money in as they can! Do you believe that the fact that I ask
them to turn up the relevant statutes, mean they will think they
can't be bothered, ie too much hassle?
>
--- End Quote ---
No, I think it's far more likely that Barnet will fail to
consider or deal with your representations properly, and you
might win a tribunal appeal due to a lack of evidence from the
council and/or a procedural impropriety in failing to consider
your representations.
#Post#: 10390--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: November 16, 2023, 11:47 am
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I have appealed to Barnet using part of cp8759 and Mr Mustard’s
posts (thanks both). I shan’t hold my breath while waiting for
their acceptance of my challenge!!
#Post#: 12046--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: December 7, 2023, 10:31 am
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Just to say I received my (surprise!) letter of rejection from
Barnet today. The offence was 3 November and they received my
appeal on 16 November. They are hardly rushing it through.
They say that my wheel(s) was partly on the pavement which can
force pedestrians to walk on the carriageway which could cause
an accident particularly to wheelchair or pushchair users, the
very young or elderly, or partially sighted people who maybe
forced off the pavement.
The fact that they tell you to partially park on the pavement,
inches away from where I parked, seems irrelevant! I will
check tomorrow to make sure that the paving isn't significantly
narrower at the point where I parked. If there is no
appreicable difference I think I will challenge it again when I
receive the NtO.
What do you all think, have I got a case worthy of challenge?
#Post#: 12048--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 7, 2023, 10:37 am
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Please post a copy of what you wrote and of their rejection.
#Post#: 12052--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: December 7, 2023, 11:09 am
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Would somebody please remind me who to shrink documents to fit
on the forum.
#Post#: 12053--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 7, 2023, 11:20 am
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--- Quote from: I-LOV-MONEY link ---
>
> Would somebody please remind me who to shrink documents to fit
on the forum.
>
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See
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
I find
HTML https://imgbb.com/
works well, uploading each image
separately, then scrolling down for each image to the BBCode
enables you to copy & paste the BBCode for each image into your
post.
#Post#: 12067--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: December 7, 2023, 5:08 pm
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This is what I wrote to Barnet.
I would invite you to cancel the penalty charge on a
discretionary basis, given that I parked at night and the
contravention appears to be minimal if not de minimis. The
vehicle was slightly outside the bay and only on the kerbstone
with one wheel.
I went to post the reply from Barnet, but unfortunately when I
tried earlier this evening the server at imgb.com is down and it
still is. Hopefully tomorrow they will have rectified the fault.
#Post#: 12087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: I-LOV-MONEY
Date: December 8, 2023, 10:25 am
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Apologies for the delay in uploading Barnet's response. I was
out all this morning and part afternoon.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/sbVWdJB/Barnet1.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/sbVWdJB
HTML https://i.ibb.co/k42PZf7/Barnet2.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/k42PZf7
Is this worth pursuing?
#Post#: 12107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Apologies. Problem posting Barnet. Pavement parking.
Code 62. Old Rectory Gardens
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 8, 2023, 2:17 pm
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Discretion?
There are NO marked bays despite their signs because a parking
place is not a 'marked bay' for the purposes of footway parking.
I cannot express this any clearer. And in addition the parking
place markings are incorrect.
So, the signs are incorrect and therefore misleading.
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