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#Post#: 96275--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 31, 2025, 4:39 am
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It needs tweaking. I'll do it later.
#Post#: 96854--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: November 4, 2025, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> It needs tweaking. I'll do it later.
>
--- End Quote ---
Just a gentle reminder on this. PCN was served 25/10 so still
plenty of time.
Thanks
Jim
#Post#: 96857--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: Harley
Date: November 4, 2025, 4:29 pm
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Hi I went into James street the exact same way and got a PCN on
Richmond road .I was going to the Sunlight Centre . I do not
understand but I’m never going to the Sunlight Centre again .
Why have services that you cannot access at the Sunlight Centre
.
#Post#: 96858--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 4, 2025, 4:31 pm
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This is better I think.
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I am challenging PCN number MW93865873 on the basis that the
contravention did not occur owing to inadequate signage.
I parked on a single yellow line on Canterbury Street and did
not see any controlled zone signs on my route, and also checked
the yellow line for a timeplate, finding none.
I am well aware of controlled zones in Medway and have only
encountered ones that end at 6.30pm, so felt sure this was also
the case.
I was puzzled to get the PCN and spent some time retracing my
route which was, north on Canterbury Street, before turning
around and parking outside Medway Medals.
I managed to find seriously defective entry signs:
The sign on the left hand side of the road cannot be seen at all
– it has been rotated completely through 90 degrees and only its
pole is visible.
The sign on the right hand side is also severely rotated: it can
just be made out that there is a sign there, but is at such an
acute angle that it is impossible to read it when driving or
even to spot it’s there.
I have taken a picture to show this (enclosed).
As the council has failed to comply with its duty to maintain
signs that convey the restriction to the drivers, the PCN must
be cancelled and I look forward to early confirmation.
I hope too this will aid you in restoring the signs to their
compliant positions.
#Post#: 96914--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: November 5, 2025, 9:46 am
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Need to change this slightly I'm not sure there are any 6.30
cpzs. CPZ are only really used in gillingham (their map is
confusing as it actually shows permit parking areas, some of
which are also cpz's.
How does this sound?
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I am challenging PCN number MW93865873 on the basis that the
contravention did not occur owing to inadequate signage.
I parked on a single yellow line on Canterbury Street and did
not see any controlled zone signs on my route, and also checked
the yellow line for a timeplate, finding none.
I am an occasional visitor to Gillingham and am well aware of
controlled zones. On a previous visit to Gillingham I recalled
the CPZ operating from 8am to 8pm. This was only 0.5 km from
where I parked on this visit, so felt sure this was also the
case.
I was puzzled to get the PCN and spent some time retracing my
route which was, north on Canterbury Street, before turning
around and parking outside Medway Medals.
I managed to find seriously defective entry signs:
The sign on the left hand side of the road cannot be seen at all
– it has been rotated completely through 90 degrees and only its
pole is visible.
The sign on the right hand side is also severely rotated: it can
just be made out that there is a sign there, but is at such an
acute angle that it is impossible to read it when driving or
even to spot it’s there.
I have taken a picture to show this (enclosed).
As the council has failed to comply with its duty to maintain
signs that convey the restriction to the drivers, the PCN must
be cancelled and I look forward to early confirmation.
I hope too this will aid you in restoring the signs to their
compliant positions.
[/quote]
#Post#: 96924--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 5, 2025, 10:45 am
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Yes I wasn't sure about the CPZs.
I had a look on Maps and there is a parking bay outside KFC
where the time ends at 10pm to match the CPZ, but there is
another bay on the opposite side near where you were that ends
at 6pm (if still current). While CPZs control only single yellow
lines, bay times are often the same.
#Post#: 96939--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: November 5, 2025, 11:36 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> Yes I wasn't sure about the CPZs.
>
> I had a look on Maps and there is a parking bay outside KFC
where the time ends at 10pm to match the CPZ, but there is
another bay on the opposite side near where you were that ends
at 6pm (if still current). While CPZs control only single yellow
lines, bay times are often the same.
>
--- End Quote ---
Is my edited version in post above OK, or is it worth me taking
a trip out to check the bay times?
I know one of the bays on opposite side was definitely earlier
(not sure if 6 or 8 pm) as there was a space about a ft too
short for me I tried to get into.
edit GSV suggests I'm wrong about the bays on the side I parked
adjoining the SYL and are 10 pm.
Thanks
Jim
#Post#: 97026--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 6, 2025, 4:55 am
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A bay with an earlier end time is with mentioning if you had
seen it as it seems you did.
I also note that a nearby bay where I initially tried to park
has an end time of xxx, which is misleading in a controlled
zone.
#Post#: 99733--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: November 25, 2025, 8:38 am
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Hi,
As was predicted Medway have rejected the informal appeal. Have
made no reference to my photos of the sign(s) and state "The
times are clearly indicated on the entry signs to the Controlled
Parking Zone.".
I guess I now need to wait for the NTO and put it in (the same?)
again, which I happy to do so long as you guys think the odds
are on my side.
Rejection here for those interested
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#Post#: 99741--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 25, 2025, 9:45 am
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The rejection is gibberish they say the times of the restriction
and entry times clearly indicated on CPZ entry but then say
Canterbury Street is no waiting at any time.
This is no doubt a clumsy template mistake but it makes them
look very silly.
I would await the NTO - the entry sign issue is their hill to
ultimately die on.
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