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#Post#: 96014--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 29, 2025, 4:35 am
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So have you got your own pics of that zone entry - across the
whole road.
If there is just one sign not fully facing traffic on the right
this isn't adequate but Medway is an obdurate council and you'd
probably have to see this through to the tribunal.
#Post#: 96018--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: October 29, 2025, 5:16 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> So have you got your own pics of that zone entry - across the
whole road.
>
> If there is just one sign not fully facing traffic on the
right this isn't adequate but Medway is an obdurate council and
you'd probably have to see this through to the tribunal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes pictures 6 and 7 of mypicts link are mine
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/VlmyDPw
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/VlmyDPw
Picture 6 shows the view the driver has approaching the signs
along canterbury st. Only the RH sign is visible at all, the
left hand sign looks like just a pole.
Picture 7 shows a view at right angles standing in stafford st -
here the LH entry sign is visible. The rear of the RH sign is
also visible, that should be facing the traffic exiting the
zone.
Are these adequate or do I need more (I have a couple of others
but are pretty much the same as the ones posted.
Clearly Medway don't give a toss about signage as you can see
from GSV that they've been like this for over 5 years.
#Post#: 96024--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 29, 2025, 6:00 am
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So this is the entry - well worth taking this on.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/3mPgVXKX/Screenshot-2025-10-29-at-11-01-40.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/W4MCb3pM/med.jpg
#Post#: 96027--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: October 29, 2025, 6:24 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> So this is the entry - well worth taking this on.
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/3mPgVXKX/Screenshot-2025-10-29-at-11-01-40.png
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HTML https://i.ibb.co/W4MCb3pM/med.jpg
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I believe so.
#Post#: 96043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 29, 2025, 8:43 am
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Draft a short challenge and post here first.
#Post#: 96048--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:00 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> Draft a short challenge and post here first.
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OK will do.
Does this just need to focus on the cpz signage (i.e. does the
faulty cpz signage automatically invalidate the SYL) or do I
need to address the no yellow time plate for the SYL section as
well?
#Post#: 96051--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:09 am
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A CPZ controls single yellow lines. No timeplates are needed
unless certain lines have times that differ from the CPZ, or in
certain situations such as to emphasise dual restrictions such
as coinciding with school zig-zags.
#Post#: 96098--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: October 29, 2025, 1:23 pm
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Draft Appeal
I am appealing the issue of PCN number MW93865873 on the basis
that the contravention did not occur. The reason for this is
detailed below.
The signage entering the CPZ is seriously defective and thus
invalidating Controlled Parking Zone E. Given that the CPZ is
invalid due to poor signage, the single yellow line on which I
was parked is therefore not enforceable since, as the CPZ is
invalid, the line has no hours of enforcement. The single yellow
line also had no yellow time plate.
The defective CPZ signage is detailed below
I entered CPZ E heading north on Canterbury St, before turning
around and parking on the SYL outside Medway Medals where the
alleged contravention occurred.
The signs at the entry to CPZ E, where my car entered the CPZ,
are located at the junction of Canterbury St and Stafford St.
The attached photograph shows the drivers view of the sign(s)
approaching entry to CPZ.
As can be seen from the attached photo is very difficult to see
either CPZ E start sign. The left hand and right hand signs are
arrowed to help enable their identification.
The sign on the left hand side of the road cannot be seen at
all. The left hand side sign has been rotated completely through
90 degrees and only its pole is visible. The left hand sign can
only be seen if actually in Stafford St.
The sign on the right hand side is also severely rotated, it can
just be made out that there is a sign there, but is at such an
acute angle, that it is completely impossible to read it. The
sign is also unlit and it was dark at the time of driving past
it.
It is completely unreasonable to expect any motorist to be able
to read and interpret either sign whilst driving north on
Canterbury St. as they are currently positioned.
From google street view it can be seen that the signs have been
like this for many years and rarely, if ever, maintained. Medway
Council are under a duty to maintain signs reflecting traffic
orders they have introduced in Regulation 18 (1) (b) in The
Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and
Wales) Regulations 1996. The council have demonstrably failed to
do this. The traffic order for the CPZ E is therefore invalid.
Link to Photo of entry to zone
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/gofGYcw_xl.jpg
#Post#: 96246--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: jimzzr
Date: October 30, 2025, 3:51 pm
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Any comments on draft appeal in above post?
#Post#: 96262--------------------------------------------------
Re: Medway Code 01 restricted street, canterbury st. Gillingham
cpz signage a shambles.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 30, 2025, 6:42 pm
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--- Quote from: jimzzr link ---
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> Any comments on draft appeal in above post?
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Looks OK, but don't expect them to roll over and cancel the PCN.
You must be prepared to stand your ground and take them to the
Traffic Penalty Tribunal.
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