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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: adam112
Date: June 10, 2026, 2:55 pm
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I have attached the following letter that has been sent:
HTML https://ibb.co/album/PtfCf9
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 10, 2026, 2:56 pm
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> In due course you will receive a county court claim to which
you will need to file a defence.
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But please post things you receive, otherwise we won’t have the
full story to give you the best advice we can. (Noted that you
have done so)
You have to file a defence, or an Acknowledgment of Service
within 14+5 of the date on the N1SDT claim form.
If you file an AoS, you have a further 14 days to file a
defence.
You do all this through MCOL using the password on the claim
form you have received.
So you may want to post your proposed defence here, noting the
deadlines.
I would keep it short, you are the registered keeper, the driver
has not been identified, it’s not “relevant land” and so
liability can not be transferred to you.
Maybe something on the Particulars of Claim being vague and that
they can not assume you were the driver.
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 10, 2026, 2:58 pm
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Date of 2 June so
22 June for defence or AoS
6 July for defence if AoS filed by 22 June
You are advised to obscure the password on the picture of the
form.
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: June 11, 2026, 2:04 am
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Leeds Railway Station defence.
1. This claim is denied in its entirety and no debt is owed to
the Claimant.
2. It is acknowledged that I was the Registered Keeper of the
vehicle at the material time.
3. That the driver of the vehicle is not known to the Claimant
and that there is absolutely no legal requirement for me to
reveal the drivers details.
4. That no assumption of who was driving can be drawn from me
simply exercising my right to say nothing in a situation where
the law does not require me to disclose driver information.
5. That the Claimant is using a 'Boiler-plate' Particulars of
Claim which lacks accuracy and relevance to the particular
matter.
6. That with the driver not known to the Claimant, the Claimant
is attempting to use Protections of Freedoms Act (2012)(PoFA) in
order to invoke what is known legally as 'Keeper Liability'.
7. That the attempt to use PoFA Keeper Liability is not
applicable to this specific location since the location is not
classed as 'relevant land' under the legislation - the location
at Leeds Railway station is subject to Railway Byelaws (which
legally constitutes Statutory Control under PoFA) and therefore
it is excluded from PoFA - Note : The alleged parking event
pre-dates the recent amendments to PoFA.
8. That the Claimants own Parking Charge Notice (PCN) Notice to
Keeper (NtK) specifies, ironically, in large bold print, that
the NtK is "Non-PoFA".
9. That PoFA Keeper Liability is therefore not available to the
Claimant.
10. That with both the driver unknown and no Keeper Liability
available, there is no legal route to liability in this matter.
11. That liability is therefore denied.
Additional Defence Points;
12. That it is not possible for the Claimant to have formed a
contract with the driver in any circumstance since a driver
would never consider that the Claimant's signage constituted an
offer of contract since the signage simply resembles normal road
signage.
13. That, in law, in order for a contract to have been formed
there would need to be 'clear intent on the part of both parties
to form a legal relationship' - it therefore stands that no
contract can be formed in a situation where the driver does not
recognise that a contract is being offered.
14. That the road markings and signage demonstrated in the
parking operators evidence are contradictory in nature and are
therefore in breach of the Parking Operators Code of Practice.
15. That whilst some signage specifies, "No Stopping" there are
additional road markings such as double yellow lines which allow
brief stops for dropping off and picking up passengers.
16. That in order to be compliant, No Stopping signage can only
be supported by double red lines.
17. That in previous correspondence, the Claimant's legal
representatives have consistently sent me legal letters which
attempted to completely misrepresent their true legal position
in an attempt to pressure me into paying.
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: June 11, 2026, 2:08 am
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Point 7 - or in the additional points - the incident pre-dates
the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Definition of Relevant
Land) (Amendment) Order 2025, because it took place before
December 2025.
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: June 11, 2026, 2:35 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> Point 7 - or in the additional points - the incident pre-dates
the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (Definition of Relevant
Land) (Amendment) Order 2025, because it took place before
December 2025.
>
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Amended.
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: adam112
Date: June 11, 2026, 9:43 am
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Amazing! Thanks for the advice, I will submit my defence (the
points described above) through MCOL and will let you know the
outcome
Thanks
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: adam112
Date: July 20, 2026, 9:01 am
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I have received the following letter now:
HTML https://ibb.co/album/TDdBJr
What are the next steps involved?
Thanks
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Re: PCN UKCPS No stopping Leeds Train Station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 20, 2026, 9:07 am
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Search the forum for “N180” and you will find advice for
completion of your own, which you do when a blank form is sent
to you or your MCOL acount indicates that it has. The advice
includes instructions for sending your own online.
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