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Smart Parking PCN - Insufficent time permit - TaB Methodist
Church, London
DIR By: ranch1988
Date: October 27, 2025, 7:33 am
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Hi,
We have been issue a "Notice to Keeper - Parking Charge" for not
paying for enough time in the car park. The driver paid for the
planned stay but failed to leave in time, including for reasons
of tight spaces for meneavour.
Although we do not challenge the timings, we read in other
topics that Smart Parking might have failed to issue a compliant
PCN, as they do not name the driver. (Example:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)
I will upload the PCN but the main dates can be found below:
Date of Contravention: 07/10/2025
Date Issue: 16/10/2025
Are we able to challenge this fine, or we are expected to get
back to them in time to name the driver as they seem to have
notified us within 14 days of the contravention?
#Post#: 95732--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smart Parking PCN - Insufficent time permit - TaB Methodist
Church, London
DIR By: ranch1988
Date: October 27, 2025, 7:36 am
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Here are the uploaded images for the PCN (front and back) and
car park payment receipt:
PCN front:
HTML https://ibb.co/j9xyKYsn
HTML https://ibb.co/j9xyKYsn
PCN back:
HTML https://ibb.co/ZpTNVryB
HTML https://ibb.co/ZpTNVryB
Car park receipt:
HTML https://ibb.co/991QPZCY
HTML https://ibb.co/991QPZCY
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Re: Smart Parking PCN - Insufficent time permit - TaB Methodist
Church, London
DIR By: jfollows
Date: October 27, 2025, 8:24 am
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The PCN is deemed to be delivered on 20 October which is within
14 days of the parking event, so PoFA 2012 can be used to
transfer liability from the unknown driver to you, the known
registered keeper. There are other requirements for PoFA 2012 to
be valid, but the 14 day limit has been met here.
They can never name the driver in the PCN, all they know is the
car’s registration, but they can use that to apply to the DVLA
to identify the registered keeper. They often fail the
requirements of the legislation to transfer liability, which is
why we advise never identifying the driver, but in this case
they have complied with the more obvious requirement.
Oh, and it’s not a fine, it’s an invoice for payment under civil
contract law based on the driver entering into a contract by
parking.
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Re: Smart Parking PCN - Insufficent time permit - TaB Methodist
Church, London
DIR By: Dave65
Date: October 27, 2025, 8:45 am
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What were the circumstances of the parking as this was a church?
Is there someone you could complain to about this and ask to
cancel it.
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Re: Smart Parking PCN - Insufficent time permit - TaB Methodist
Church, London
DIR By: ranch1988
Date: October 27, 2025, 10:29 am
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Thanks for the responses! It is much appreciated.
The driver was there for an event organised by the church. The
driver found out after the event that the church organises
parking, but not knowing that in advance, they paid the parking
by themselves (as per receipt). The driver will try to contact
the church.
Would that be the only hope of getting the fine cancelled, or
even though Smart Parking seem to have complied with the most
obvious parts of the legistalation they could have missed
something?
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