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       Re: Temple Mills Lane E20 51j
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 28, 2025, 1:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: StunnedDad link ---
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       > On another note, I did want to add how my friends and others
       in london believe driving in London has become a nightmare. They
       have taken the joy out of driving. So many cameras, so many no
       entry zones. Even Google street views cant keep up with. Surely
       looking at numerous signs while driving takes the joy out of
       driving anywhere. Always wondering whats around the corner,
       which rule am I breaking. What road is prohibited at what times.
       I have one next to my street, which now needs me to drive 10
       minutes around during peak hours to avoid that. This literally
       starts from the end of my street I live in.
       >
       > You may have a better view of how many tickets are issued in
       London vs outside. I was recently in the country side, it was
       much easier, barely any cameras and it was more fun to drive.
       May be if you drive everyday in london as a taxi driver or for
       delivery drivers. All others beware if you are the occassional
       driver in London.
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       >
       > Thoughts ?
       >
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       Until the vast sums gained by councils and TfL in London are
       severely kurbed, the situation will continue. We had the same
       situation with speed cameras, where the councils and the police
       kept the fines money. There was a big political row and the
       government cancelled the scheme, so that all speed camera fines
       are submitted to central government. PCN penalties in London are
       over double the rest of the country. THere is a provision in the
       LLA & TfL Act 2003 which permits the Secretary of State to
       intervene, (see below). So far no SoC of either governing party
       since the Act came in, has intervened, so they must think the
       penalties are OK
       So the moral is, just think carefully who you vote for in
       future.
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