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       #Post#: 95668--------------------------------------------------
       Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic Equip
       ment / Met Prosecutions
       By: jeff Date: October 26, 2025, 3:19 pm
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       Alleged Offense: Fail to comply with Red Light Signals -
       Automatic Equipment
       Time into Red: 0.9 Seconds
       Location: A501 Euston Rd j/w Gordon St W/B NW1
       Questions:
       Is it reasonable to dispute less than 1 second?
       Are there thresholds for certain districts?
       Can automatic equipment error be a factor here?
       Can this be defended?
       #Post#: 95676--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic E
       quipment / Met Prosecutions
       By: NewJudge Date: October 26, 2025, 4:21 pm
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       [quote]Is it reasonable to dispute less than 1 second?[/quote]
       What do you mean by dispute it? Do you mean dispute that the
       0.9sec might be incorrect or that it should be allowed. If the
       second, then no.
       [quote]Are there thresholds for certain districts?[/quote]
       Possibly. That's up to the police. There is nothing published as
       there is with speeding
       [quote]Can automatic equipment error be a factor here?[/quote]
       Unlikely
       [quote]Can this be defended?[/quote]
       Yes. Whether a defence would be successful is a different
       matter.
       Are you being prosecuted in court for this or don't you know
       yet?
       #Post#: 95678--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic E
       quipment / Met Prosecutions
       By: jeff Date: October 26, 2025, 5:10 pm
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       Thanks!
       I mean - Is it worth challenging when its under 1 second? Maybe
       0.9 seconds is within error of a district threshold? I have no
       knowledge on this.
       This information is from a NIP. I am returning the Section 172
       statement tomorrow.
       I don't know if this will result in prosecution in court but I
       have received the NIP.
       #Post#: 95683--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic E
       quipment / Met Prosecutions
       By: NewJudge Date: October 26, 2025, 5:50 pm
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       Crossing the stop line after red is an offence. You should bear
       in mind that amber also means "stop" and that is displayed for
       around three seconds. The police have chosen to act against you.
       That's all there is to it. It  is entirely a matter for them to
       decide whether to take action or not.
       It is unlikely you will be prosecuted. Although there are no
       published guidelines, 0.9 secs could possibly see a course
       offered. Failing that, a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points.
       #Post#: 95689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Going through a Red Light / Less than 1 second / Automatic E
       quipment / Met Prosecutions
       By: jeff Date: October 26, 2025, 6:45 pm
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       Understood, thanks.
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