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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: November 17, 2025, 1:54 pm
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The PCN addressed to me has arrived now
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#Post#: 98674--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: November 18, 2025, 11:38 am
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OK
The penalty exceeds the relevant amount in the circumstances of
the case
The PCN and the Notice to owner issued by the authority both
offer a method of payment by telephone the number that needs be
called being 0845 371 9901 this is a premium rate telephone
number attracting a two part charge in addition to the normal
service provider call charges The first part is an access charge
to your service provider and the second part is a service charge
which goes to the service you are calling
As the cost of paying by phone would exceed the statutory amount
allowed by law then the statutory ground is made out and the PCN
must be cancelled.
This ground has both won and lost at tribunal but Trafford have
a record of of not dealing with this in their notice of
rejection they will make to you. That will win as they are
required by law to consider each point so you must make all the
different points suggested.
Post a draft here before sending so it can be checked over to
give you the best chance
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: November 23, 2025, 6:22 am
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I plan to use the following for my appeal
1. The space in front of my car is longer than the part of my
car that was in the box therefore I was not stopped by the
stationary vehicle in front of me.
2. The part of the box that I stopped in extends beyond the end
of the junction entering the roundabout which makes the box too
large for its purpose and therefore potentially illegal
3. The PCN gives the location as the roundabout name only and
not the specific junction and is therefore not valid.
4. The Video doesn't show entry into the box so moment of
'offence' isn't captured. Therefore it is not sufficient to
prove anything and not enforceable.
5. The penalty exceeds the relevant amount in the circumstances
of the case.
The PCN and the Notice to owner issued by the authority both
offer a method of payment by telephone the number that needs be
called being 0845 371 9901 this is a premium rate telephone
number attracting a two part charge in addition to the normal
service provider call charges The first part is an access charge
to your service provider and the second part is a service charge
which goes to the service you are calling
As the cost of paying by phone would exceed the statutory amount
allowed by law then the statutory ground is made out and the PCN
must be cancelled.
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: November 28, 2025, 1:36 pm
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Good news
PCN has been cancelled
Reply from council is below:
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to your further correspondence received in connection
with Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
TR80431883.
After reviewing the system as well as the CCTV footage of the
incident, as your vehicle was not captured
entering the junction, we are not convinced that the PCN should
have been issued. We apologize for
any inconvenience caused by the issuing of this PCN.
For future reference, it is important to clarify that the
junction has been designed to manage traffic flow
across multiple connecting lanes, including four exiting lanes
and a designated bus lane. Whilst the
junction may appear extensive due to its coverage across more
than one road, its placement is
compliant with traffic regulations and are intended to prevent
congestion and obstruction at busy
intersections.
The PCN issued to your vehicle has been cancelled. This case has
now been closed, and no further
action is required.
Yours Sincerely.
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: moscva2008
Date: December 30, 2025, 3:47 pm
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Regarding the above exploit mentioned of having to use the 0845
371 9901 phone number to pay and therefore the PCN's for
Trafford Council being invalid - hypothetically if I was to keep
making the same parking offence in Trafford , would that mean I
could get off each one on this technicality?
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