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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 28, 2025, 8:25 am
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:05 am
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I take it you are not the co sec of Volkswagen financial
services so this has nothing to do with you other than if you
decide to pay it.
VFS need to make representations on the not owner ground the
need to supply with this some info re the lease. (do not tell
them what to send) VFS cannot send the PCN to you to challenge
IF the council accept the representation by VFS then they will
send a new PCN to you.
They will mess this up giving you very strong arguments re
procedural impropriety
the pcn is required by law to tell you that you have 21 days to
pay the discount and 28 days to pay the full amount this one
doesn't it gives you dates and they are wrong
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:17 am
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--- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
>
> I take it you are not the co sec of Volkswagen financial
services so this has nothing to do with you other than if you
decide to pay it.
>
> VFS need to make representations on the not owner ground the
need to supply with this some info re the lease. (do not tell
them what to send) VFS cannot send the PCN to you to challenge
IF the council accept the representation by VFS then they will
send a new PCN to you.
>
> They will mess this up giving you very strong arguments re
procedural impropriety
>
> the pcn is required by law to tell you that you have 21 days
to pay the discount and 28 days to pay the full amount this one
doesn't it gives you dates and they are wrong
>
--- End Quote ---
The PCN was sent to me by email by VFS the lease company.
I am the lessee.
I shall wait for the council to send one to me directly
#Post#: 96056--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 29, 2025, 9:34 am
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What are the terms in the 'small print' of your lease agreement
for paying fines and penalties?
#Post#: 96066--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 29, 2025, 10:35 am
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no you must get onto VFS and instruct them to make
representations to the council so they can so the council can
transfer the PCN into your name.
If that is done and the council get it right I'll show my A**e
in Mersey square
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 29, 2025, 10:36 am
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--- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
>
> no you must get onto VFS and instruct them to make
representations to the council so they can so the council can
transfer the PCN into your name.
>
> If that is done and the council get it right I'll show my A**e
in Mersey square
>
--- End Quote ---
Regardless you will win with the date issue unless the
adjudicator has a brain fart
#Post#: 96105--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 29, 2025, 3:02 pm
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OK. I have done that. I will wait for the PCN in my name now.
#Post#: 96225--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 30, 2025, 1:48 pm
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Below is the email from the lease company
"Dear Colleague,
As part of our commitment to providing you with the highest
levels of service, we are writing to let you know that we have
received notification from your leasing company regarding a
Driving Offence for NG23EOZ.
You can find specific details of the charge within the attached
documents.
Why are we making you aware of the charge?
As the liability for the charge must transfer from the leasing
company to ourselves and then to you, this process can take some
time. As a result, to minimise the risk of the charge
escalating, we make all of our colleagues aware of the charges
at the earliest possible opportunity so immediate payment can be
made to the issuer should you accept the charge.
What do you need to do?
If you accept liability, please make payment. Information on how
to make payment can be found on the attached notification. If
the discounted amount is not available, you may wait until the
notification is reissued to you from the authority but please
consider the points raised above as NHS Fleet Solutions cannot
be held responsible for fees incurred from charges escalating.
If you do not accept liability please appeal to the authority.
An appeal can only be submitted once the charge has been
transferred into your name and the authority have wrote to you
directly. If you appeal a charge before this point, it will most
likely be automatically rejected by the issuer and can cause
issues in the transfer of liability process. Any escalated
charges as a result of an appeal submitted early will be passed
across to the driver.
Kind regards,
The Fleet Solutions Team"
#Post#: 96274--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 31, 2025, 4:22 am
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They are idiots only the person/company named on the PCN is
allowed to make representations. This is the only way to
transfer liability and the PCN is the only opportunity to do so.
If no representation is made then a charge certificate is issued
and the chance to appeal is lost.
The may have a contractual right to bill you if they need to pay
but not if their own incompetence is the cause of the cost
#Post#: 96362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 31, 2025, 2:07 pm
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To be fair to VFS, they have in the past made representation and
transferred the PCN to me.
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