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Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and stopping
in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 26, 2025, 9:34 am
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Hi
I need advice regarding this PCN
The offence date was 3/10/25. Location 5063/White City Circle,
Stretford, Trafford
I stopped in a yellow box with half the car still in the box.
I plan to appeal on 3 grounds
1. The space in front of my car is longer than the part of my
car that was in the box therefore I was not stopped by the
stationary vehicle in front of me (see PCN photo, car is
circled)
2. The part of the box that I stopped in extends beyond the end
of the junction entering into the roundabout which makes the box
to large for its purpose and therefore potentailly illegal (see
gmaps image)
3. The PCN on gives the roundanbout name only and not the
specific junction and is therefore not valid. Please see the
image of the PCN.
Do you think any of these points are valid?
Should I appeal or just pay the reduced fine
Thank you for your advice
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#Post#: 95641--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 26, 2025, 11:48 am
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As Imgur is no longer available in the UK, you will need to use
ibb.co
HTML https://imgbb.com/
or
HTML https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode
See also
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
#Post#: 95654--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: MrChips
Date: October 26, 2025, 1:40 pm
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You've redacted the PCN number and vehicle registration so we
can't access the video evidence.
#Post#: 95746--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 27, 2025, 10:29 am
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Reg no NG23EOZ
PCN TR80431883
Can be viewed at
HTML https://pcnportal.trafford.gov.uk/
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 27, 2025, 10:37 am
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Looks like a ridiculous box.
Which is your car.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/C3Z7CgYz/Get-Video1-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
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Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 27, 2025, 10:47 am
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The blue grey Audi behind the red car 3rd row from the left with
the rear wheels in the box
#Post#: 95751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: MrChips
Date: October 27, 2025, 10:57 am
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Video doesn't show entry into the box so moment of 'offence'
isn't captured. Therefore not sufficient to prove anything and
not enforceable.
#Post#: 95796--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 27, 2025, 3:28 pm
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This must be a nice little earner for Trafford Council, in fact
the YBJ would seem to have its sole purpose as a money making
machine !.
#Post#: 95863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: mnstar
Date: October 28, 2025, 4:56 am
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--- Quote from: MrChips link ---
>
> Video doesn't show entry into the box so moment of 'offence'
isn't captured. Therefore not sufficient to prove anything and
not enforceable.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you.
I will add this to my appeal and let you know how they respond
#Post#: 95891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trafford Council 5063/White City Circle - Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera enforc
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 28, 2025, 7:00 am
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Trafford PCN's have an exploitable flaw that can win on it's own
but I can't see the photos of the PCN please post using the
forum advice
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