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Enfield / 50R-No right turn / jct Carterhatch Lane & Willow
Rd EN1
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: October 25, 2025, 11:39 am
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Afternoon All
Spoke to soon......and I'm back!!
GSV
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/pWiWEYdYGwPAmMZx7
CCTV Footage
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hncacmy19psk9eqn3hz91/Enfield-PCN-EF99303342_video.mp4?rlkey=ks39ncozwnf0p9uz7l1li9nvb&st=uidhcst6&dl=0
Redacted PCN
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y15xz9tmja63o2y3obux0/20251022_MF17VHY_PCN_Carterhatch-Lane-no-right-turn_20250915_redacted.pdf?rlkey=0d76ydmhy3wzv5pa2gkysaqih&st=qgohqehi&dl=0
Completely missed the sign as I was distracted by the person I
was picking up on the corner.
Spot any discrepancies with this PCN or begrudgingly just cough
up the discounted ransom of £80?
Thanks in advance again.
Best - NTIAEP
#Post#: 95568--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield / 50R-No right turn / jct Carterhatch Lane &
Willow Rd EN1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 25, 2025, 2:19 pm
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We've seen this location before, last year, I think.
I had a look at the appeals at London Tribunals and all were
refused bar one which centred on the appellant being the hirer
of a vehicle and the hire agreement did not allow transfer of
liability to him. All the others centre on the actual NRT sign,
although none seem to point out that the text below the sign
cannot be read until the driver is committed to the turn, there
being no advance warning sign. So this argument could be
submitted in representations, but, needless to say, with the
full PCN penalty in play.
#Post#: 95743--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield / 50R-No right turn / jct Carterhatch Lane &
Willow Rd EN1
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: October 27, 2025, 9:56 am
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[member=12]Incandescent[/member]
Thanks for the response and your efforts. Think the odds would
be against me at tribunal so will have to chalk this one down as
another lesson learnt (or not?).
Regards - NTIAEP
#Post#: 95794--------------------------------------------------
Re: Enfield / 50R-No right turn / jct Carterhatch Lane &
Willow Rd EN1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 27, 2025, 3:20 pm
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--- Quote from: NTIAEP link ---
>
> [member=12]Incandescent[/member]
> Thanks for the response and your efforts. Think the odds
would be against me at tribunal so will have to chalk this one
down as another lesson learnt (or not?).
>
> Regards - NTIAEP
>
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In cases I looked at at London Tribunals, more than one
adjudicator refused the appeal, so I think discount is best, but
this location still makes me unhappy.
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