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       #Post#: 95526--------------------------------------------------
       Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: Muhammad
       Date: October 25, 2025, 9:03 am
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       Hi folks ..This PCN is servedto my friend by the Council person
       for parking car without paying the charge .He owns the shop and
       was inside the shop as car was parked outside his shop  he saw
       the officer but it was to late he has taken the pictures and
       issued him PCN and said you can ask council to cancel this
       charge .He talked to Council they said he need to submit some
       application to City Council Hall and then they will decide if
       they can cancel .Please guide me if we can challenge this
       PCN.Here is the link to PCN ..Thank you
  HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_GHjM-i2y_VRZDbSm0jb8-IL66xgBuxm
       #Post#: 95529--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 25, 2025, 9:11 am
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       There is 5 minutes observation on the PCN. What grounds does he
       - or is it you - have for not paying to park?
       Initial challenge is to Havering.
       #Post#: 95537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: Muhammad
       Date: October 25, 2025, 10:34 am
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       Is there any chance if we can say that it was parked infront of
       his shop opposite side of street ?
       #Post#: 95539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: October 25, 2025, 10:43 am
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       What difference will that make? Was the car parked while loading
       or unloading goods from the shop? what yellow lines or
       restrictions are there on that bit of road?
       #Post#: 95543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: Muhammad
       Date: October 25, 2025, 10:55 am
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       Yes there were restriction as there were marked bays in which
       you can park after paying ..But he just parked in that marked
       bays without paying .
       #Post#: 95546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 25, 2025, 11:01 am
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       Post the PCN number and VRM so we can check evidence but it
       sounds like paying the discount is best as Havering doesn't
       offer the discount after rejection of even an informal
       challenge.
       #Post#: 95557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: Muhammad
       Date: October 25, 2025, 11:36 am
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       Pcn number : HG50304772
       VRM : SH67 JXP
       #Post#: 95846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: Muhammad
       Date: October 27, 2025, 8:34 pm
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       Hi any update regarding this PCN..Is there any room to challenge
       it ?Please let me know
       #Post#: 95877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 28, 2025, 6:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Muhammad link ---
       >
       > Hi any update regarding this PCN..Is there any room to
       challenge it ?Please let me know
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You need to post the actual PCN document.
       From what you have told us, your friend just chanced his arm,
       and lost. I cannot see any viable appeal argument, although
       others may do so. Always best to do what it says on the sign
       regulating the parking bay.
       #Post#: 95904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked without payment of parking charge 
   DIR By: catnip
       Date: October 28, 2025, 8:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       > [quote author=Muhammad link=topic=8529.msg95846#msg95846
       date=1761615294]
       > Hi any update regarding this PCN..Is there any room to
       challenge it ?Please let me know
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You need to post the actual PCN document.
       From what you have told us, your friend just chanced his arm,
       and lost. I cannot see any viable appeal argument, although
       others may do so. Always best to do what it says on the sign
       regulating the parking bay.
       [/quote]
       It's in post 1.
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