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#Post#: 95900--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: b789
Date: October 28, 2025, 8:18 am
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You are correct. As long as you can prevent the morons at the
lease company paying it, which is a breach of your rights, then
you can appeal to APCOA. For a breach on non-relevant land,
APCOA will cancel. They may come back first asking for the
drivers details, which you are not obliged to provide. Either
ignore that or tell them that you refer them to the answer given
in Arkell v Pressdram (1971).
In the unlikely scenario that APCOA do not cancel, you just
ignore any debt recovery letters and eventually they will give
up. APCOA don't litigate.
#Post#: 95936--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: icedspurs83
Date: October 28, 2025, 11:12 am
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Super helpful. I will contact my lease provider for a LoA (and
pre-warn not to pay the PCN if it lands with them, and instead
transfer the liability) and take it from there. Will report back
soon!
Thank you again all
#Post#: 96510--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: icedspurs83
Date: November 2, 2025, 5:50 am
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Hi all
I've managed to obtain the LoA from the lease company. Please
could you let me know whether there is anything specific i need
to be aware of when I appeal, or do I simply use the wording
above? (Just checking whether it makes a difference I am a hirer
appealing under a LoA?)
Also - I assume I appeal just following the instructions on the
PCN?
Thanks!
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Just for completeness - this is what the LoA says - let me know
if there is any issue:
--- Quote ---
>
> LETTER OF AUTHORISATION
>
> Reg Number: XXXX Notice Number: XXXX
>
> I refer to the above numbered Private Parking Charge document
issued date 23/10/2025, incident dated 23/10/2025 10:14
>
> We are a vehicle leasing company and we hereby give permission
for the below mentioned hirer to appeal and discuss the above
mentioned:
>
> The name of the Hirer/Lessee is:-
> XXX XXX
>
> This is a long term lease which commenced on XX/10/2024 and is
due on XX/10/2027.
>
> Thank you for your assistance.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 96541--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: b789
Date: November 2, 2025, 12:43 pm
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With that Letter of Authority, you can now appeal directly to
APCOA as though you are the hirer/keeper.
You may appeal immediately — you no longer need to wait for a
Notice to Keeper or Notice to Hirer because the Letter of
Authority (LoA) grants you full standing to act. Submit your
appeal online via APCOA’s official portal, quoting both the
vehicle registration and the notice number.
In the online form, select or write that you are the hirer
authorised by the vehicle’s registered keeper (lease company).
Do not name or imply who the driver was. Your legal standing is
as the hirer, not the driver.
Appeal with the following, verbatim:
--- Quote ---
> I am the authorised hirer of the vehicle and attach a Letter
of Authority from the registered keeper permitting me to act on
their behalf. APCOA cannot hold a Hirer liable for any alleged
contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a
matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they
cannot use the PoFA provisions because TfW Newport Station is
not 'relevant land'.
>
> If the TfW wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under
Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and
another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded,
it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the
landowner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to
be a penalty. It is created for APCOA’s own profit (as opposed
to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has
relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver
only.
>
> The Hirer cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the
driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law
of agency. Your NtH can only hold the driver liable. APCOA have
no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete
waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
APCOA normally cancels at this stage once they see a PoFA-based
hirer appeal. They very rarely pursue claims and have no history
of litigation.
If, despite this, they reject it, you will receive a POPLA code
— which can be used to win easily by repeating the “not relevant
land” and “no PoFA liability” points.
#Post#: 96581--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: icedspurs83
Date: November 3, 2025, 4:49 am
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Thank you very much. I have submitted the appeal and will report
back.
#Post#: 100345--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: icedspurs83
Date: November 29, 2025, 2:54 pm
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All - great news, APCOA cancelled the PCN!
Their exact response was as follows:
--- Quote ---
> Thank you for your letter rregarding the above Parking Charge
Notice. Having considered the circumstances, we have cancelled
the Parking Charge Notice on this occasion.
> We would like to take this opportunity to explain that if you
receive further Parking Charge Notices' under similar
circumstances, we will be unable to cancel them. Please retain
this letter as proof of cancellation, should you need it in the
future.
--- End Quote ---
I do find it interesting they said the further PCNs would not be
cancelled...
A huge huge thanks to you for your help b789 - I am very
grateful.
#Post#: 100374--------------------------------------------------
Re: APCOA PCN - No payment - TfW Newport Station
DIR By: b789
Date: November 30, 2025, 4:37 am
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Of course then say that. What did you expect them to say. I have
5 APCOA PCNs (3 issued the same day) for alleged contraventions
at Manchester Airport, which, like the train station, is covered
by byelaws, and every single one is cancelled with the same faux
warning.
Well done for persisting with the advice.
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