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ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: mindset1990
Date: October 20, 2025, 5:36 am
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Hi there,
I recently received a letter from Bristow and Sutor about an
unpaid PCN, they are requesting I pay £355 for a ULEZ penalty
that was issued on March 8th 2025. This is the first letter I
have received, but my V5C was registered to the wrong address
until 10th May 2025. Do you think there are grounds for an OOT
based on me changing my address after the penalty has taken
place even though I have received zero correspondence to my
latest address?
Screen shots in attachments
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/uFlWuSX
Thanks for your help.
#Post#: 94784--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL Out of Time decleration
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 20, 2025, 6:12 am
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First of all, please read this and update your thread
accordingly: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
We do see quite a few cases caused by late updating of the
address on a V5C, some cases the update even being years late,
yes really ! Your case is about 2 months late, so an OOT may
succeed, but as you might know, OOTs give the right of objection
to the enforcing authority, who invariably do so.
Can you tell us how you updated your V5C, online or postal ?
BTW you won't receive any enforcement documents to your current
address, because the authority have to use the address provided
by DVLA and use it for all of the enforcement documents. Once
bailiffs are instructed, they search out where the PCN recipient
has gone and serve a Letter of Enforcement.
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: mindset1990
Date: October 20, 2025, 6:25 am
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Hi there,
Thanks for getting back to me. I updated my V5C online on the
12th May 2025. I am now worried that the bailiffs fine will
continue to go up whilst I dispute the fine via the OOT process.
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 20, 2025, 1:24 pm
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--- Quote from: mindset1990 link ---
>
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me. I updated my V5C online on the
12th May 2025. I am now worried that the bailiffs fine will
continue to go up whilst I dispute the fine via the OOT process.
>
--- End Quote ---
Please post up the documents, redacting only name and address.
Bailiffs are subject to statutory amounts when enforcing a debt.
- Notice of enforcement - £75 (Compliance stage)
- Visit fee - £235
to that must be added the PCN penalty, the 50% addition for the
Charge Certificate, and £10 for TEC debt registration. Here's
what bailiffs can charge. In most cases the percentage fee
doesn't apply
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/1/contents
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 20, 2025, 1:43 pm
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A bailiff visit adds £235 to £355 so for peace of mind we
usually advise paying now to avoid this.
You can still make an out of time declaration which if
successful gets the process reset and a refund.
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: disgruntchelt
Date: October 21, 2025, 11:08 am
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When did you move to your current address.
The fact you updated your address 2 month after the incident
does not matter. If you’d updated it one day after they got your
details you’d still be in the same boat.
Did you have postal redirection in place?
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 21, 2025, 12:31 pm
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Pl post the Notice of Enforcement from B&S. Only redact your
personal details. Post both sides.
If you're near or past the Pay By date and you can still pay
£355 then +1 to paying. This has no effect on your OOT chances
but caps your liability. Why risk straying into +£235
territory??
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Re: ULEZ PCN TFL - Out of Time declaration advice - bailiff
DIR By: mindset1990
Date: October 22, 2025, 11:14 am
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Thanks for all your help
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