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       A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: Taliar
       Date: October 19, 2025, 11:48 am
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       Driver didn't know there was a charge and there is account for
       the vehicle for Dartford crossing which thought was the same.
       Is there a leg to stand on?
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       @cp8759 is this worth appealing?
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 19, 2025, 3:54 pm
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       I think you'll find cp8759 is very busy so why not ask others
       too ?
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: badrav
       Date: October 19, 2025, 4:28 pm
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       Thanks, I put cp8759 because of the posts on TFL but asking
       anybody that knows/can help
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 19, 2025, 7:00 pm
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       To be frank, I see nothing to stand on in relation to the
       contravention itself; the driver was clearly mistaken thinking
       the Dartfords crossing account included the Blackwall tunnel.
       The two crossings are operated by completely different
       organisations.
       Others here more experienced with TfL PCNs and their content may
       see some evidence of maladministration in not puting all the
       mandatory information required on a Road User Charge (London)
       PCN. Of course you can go and look at this yourself too, by
       entering the relevant regulation onto an internet search like I
       have just done here: -
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/2285/contents
       and here
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/2313/contents
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: Taliar
       Date: October 20, 2025, 3:51 am
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       Has anybody been able to prove maladministration before for
       this?  @Incadescent, [member=1]cp8759[/member]
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 20, 2025, 4:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Taliar link ---
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       > Has anybody been able to prove maladministration before for
       this?  @Incadescent, [member=1]cp8759[/member]
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       Yes, but it may not be in the PCN, it could be their website for
       paying or submitting representations, but it's not an area I'm
       familiar with. If nobody comes back in the next few days, I
       would consider paying the discount.
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 20, 2025, 8:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Taliar link ---
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       > [member=1]cp8759[/member] is this worth appealing?
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       I have no idea and I don't have time to look into it, please see
       the June 2025 update at the bottom of the page here
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       Re: A102 Blackwell Tunnel 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 20, 2025, 8:58 am
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       TFL has stopped offering general discretion on the tunnel
       charges but no ask no get.
       Also the tolls are missing from this:
  HTML https://www.gov.uk/uk-toll-roads
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