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TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: antman40
Date: October 16, 2025, 2:06 pm
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Hello. Hope all is well.
I have recently received a PCN for stopping on a red
route/clearway.
I had a job collecting an exercise bike for a client and was
travelling in the opposite direction from Stamford Hill on
approach to the collection address which is on the main road
(Upper Clapton Road). I then performed a 3-point turn in the
main road, reversed a bit and stopped in the bay assuming
loading/unloading were permitted at that time of 9am. The reason
why I did this manoeuvre is because on approach to the signpost
it is positioned before where the markings of the bay begin,
facing towards the junction with Northwold Road instead of
facing in an adjacent, centralised position outside of the bay
or at the other end of the bay on the footway, where, if I were
driving past I could see the sign in plain sight (if that makes
sense). I then simply got out from the vehicle to check the
times on the sign as I assumed vehicles can stop to load/unload
between 7am-7pm.
Upon reading the sign it displayed "Except Loading 10am-4pm", I
immediately got back into the vehicle and drove away, this was
all within one minute, maybe even 30 seconds, from stopping to
driving away from the bay. TFLs video evidence would clearly
show me getting out from the vehicle to go look at the sign and
then promptly return back into the vehicle to drive away.
Is there anybody in here that can advise/assist with an
appeal/representation to get the PCN cancelled? Thanks. Much
appreciated. Links are below. x
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#Post#: 94389--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 16, 2025, 2:19 pm
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The sign is clear enough on a normal approach, (turn left to
enter the bay), and the sign faces the oncoming traffic because
being a Red Route it's a no-stopping road. So if you approached
in this way, you should have seen the sign and not stopped. TfL
will refuse all reps regardless of validity, so you must be
prepared to forego the discount and take them to London
Tribunals if you think the PCN is unreasonable. I think it is,
as you immediately drove off when you read the sign.
BTW, forget all about "I assumed vehicles can stop to
load/unload between 7am-7pm". Never, ever, assume anything
about parking in London or you'll end up getting a lot of PCNs.
#Post#: 94401--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: antman40
Date: October 16, 2025, 3:08 pm
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Ah yes, that is true, never assume, but because it was an early
Saturday morning I honestly thought parking would be permitted
as some red route signage times do display 'P' 7am-7pm 1hour or
in some 30 mins, that is why I went to check.
If I were to request the moving camera footage would TFL release
this before an initial representation is made?
What can be the basis of the initial representation?
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Re: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 16, 2025, 5:54 pm
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You can ask for the video, but be aware it is sent as a DVD. TfL
allow 10 days for its delivery, then re-start the enforcement
clock so you must be proactive if it doesn't turn up within the
10 days, and contact them on the matter. You would have a
reasonable case at London Tribunals, but it is not a slam-dunk
win, I'm afraid, and, of course, the full PCN penalty would be
in play.
#Post#: 94443--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 17, 2025, 1:02 am
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OP, pl confirm that the PCN is addressed to you by name.
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Re: TFL PCN CONTRAVENTION 46: Stopped where prohibited(on a red
route or clearway) Upper Clapton Road, London E5
DIR By: antman40
Date: October 17, 2025, 6:46 am
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Yes, the PCN is addressed to me in my name and address.
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