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       bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: JulianV Date: October 16, 2025, 7:35 am
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       Hi, here are the facts:
       I purchased a 18 year old car from a private seller. Its an old
       Mazda that is prone to rust. I did not view it and I arranged
       for it to be collected. I asked the seller if it had any rust
       underneath and he said "no" by text message and "not as far as
       he could see" verbally. The people who collected it signed a
       "sold as seen" receipt on my behalf.
       I have now had it inspected and there is quite bad rust on the
       underneath, probably cost around £1500 plus to fix properly. As
       its on the chassis, it could be said the road is unroadworthy.
       It would be quite hard to see the rust just looking under the
       car and he did send some videos of the underneath to me.
       Do I have any legal recourse?
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       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: RichardW Date: October 16, 2025, 8:03 am
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       Not on a private sale; unless you can show the seller lied.
       This might be possible for corrosion if for instance the car had
       been for an MOT recently and failed on rust, but the seller
       failed to disclose this - although this info is all publicly
       available, so it's really on the buyer to check.
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       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: BertB Date: October 16, 2025, 8:28 am
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       Yeah this really. What does the MOT history for the vehicle say?
       #Post#: 94395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: roythebus Date: October 16, 2025, 2:47 pm
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       Was he a genuine "private seller" or a motor trader masquerading
       as a private seller? There's lots of them around.
       #Post#: 94439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: andy_foster Date: October 16, 2025, 7:02 pm
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       If he misrepresented the car as being rust free (as opposed to
       merely expressing an opinion), then IMHO he's still on the hook.
       #Post#: 94480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: disgruntchelt Date: October 17, 2025, 7:28 am
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       I think the text saying no to rust gives you a good case at the
       small claims court.
       #Post#: 94547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: mickR Date: October 17, 2025, 3:21 pm
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       asside the issue of buying a car privately without even viewing
       it 🤦‍♂️... did it have an mot? how
       long ago? a proper vehicle inspection could reveal if any
       current mot was correctly issued. DVSA might be interested.
       as @andy said miss representation is still a thing in private
       sales.
       #Post#: 94576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: JulianV Date: October 18, 2025, 3:51 am
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       The mot was some 10 months ago and I do not suspect any fowl
       play there.
       The chap who collected it did sign a receipt that said "sold as
       seen" and he did take some photos and sent to me when he
       collected.
       The rust is underneath and would be hard to see without a ramp.
       If I issued a small claim, how would I quantify the amount?
       Could I claim for the full amount? Also, how long would that
       process take?
       #Post#: 94579--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: mickR Date: October 18, 2025, 4:38 am
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       im struggling to see how £1500 worth of rust degeneration could
       possibly appear in 10 months unless it was parked in the sea.
       im not sure your "collector" signing anything to do with the
       sale is relevant as he was not the purchaser
       #Post#: 94600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bought a car that is unroadworthy
       By: JulianV Date: October 18, 2025, 7:19 am
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       There was mention of corrosion on previous MOT's.
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