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NIP LETTER FOR SPEED OF 57MPH IN A 40MPH VARIABLE MOTORWAY ACD
By: Cyrus Date: October 14, 2025, 8:12 am
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Hello all
I received a NIP letter from Kent Police Traffic enforcement
team. I had driven 57mph on a motorway as I had not understood
the change of speed to 40mph meant that was the new speed. For
the life of me, I thought it was an indication of the speed
expected due to traffic conditions. I was on the M25 with a
standard speed of 70. I had missed reacting/responding to the
temporary speed limit sign which had changed to 40mph (placed on
signs high up) on the motorway.
My questions are below;
1. Can you kindly advise me on what I can do, please. I do not
want the points on my licence as I need my licence for work and
this is the first time this has ever happened to me? Could I
appeal it or at least request for the awareness course as this
was a genuine mistake.
2. There letter comes with a part 4, Blank box for explanations
about circumstances. What can I say to help my case. It was a
genuine mistake. For more context, if relevant; I was driving
with some crying toddlers in the car so may have been a bit
distracted and probably not processed all the changes on the
motorway as well.
Truly appreciate your help.
Thank you!
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Re: NIP LETTER FOR SPEED OF 57MPH IN A 40MPH VARIABLE MOTORWAY A
CD
By: NewJudge Date: October 14, 2025, 8:46 am
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[quote]You're almost certainly getting 4-6 points,..[/quote]
I would suggest not.
It is far more likely the you will be offered a fixed penalty of
£100 and 3 points (which is the usual offer for speeds between
54mph and 65mph in a 40mph limit).
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Re: NIP LETTER FOR SPEED OF 57MPH IN A 40MPH VARIABLE MOTORWAY A
CD
By: JustLoveCars Date: October 14, 2025, 9:30 am
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[quote author=DrSatan link=topic=8392.msg94027#msg94027
date=1760450313]
I'll admit I just used these guidelines
HTML https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/speeding-revised-2017/,<br
/>which had 4-6 points for 56-65mph in a 40 limit.
Have they been superceded?
[/quote]No, but only apply if the matter is heading to court.
The CoFP threshold is up to 65mph.
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Re: NIP LETTER FOR SPEED OF 57MPH IN A 40MPH VARIABLE MOTORWAY A
CD
By: NewJudge Date: October 14, 2025, 9:35 am
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[quote]Have they been superceded?[/quote]
No they haven’t. They are the Magistrates’ Sentencing Guidelines
for cases which are heard in court. There is no reason why the
OP’s case should head to court unless he allows it to.
You need to look at these guidelines which explain how police
decide to deal with speeding allegations:
HTML https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf
Para 9.6 provides a table of enforcement thresholds
(course/fixed penalty/court) for each speed limit. These are
usually followed by all forces, certainly in England & Wales and
I think in Scotland as well (except that courses are not offered
in Scotland, so it is FP or court only there).
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