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       31J Ealing - PCN OffenceEntering and stopping in a box junction
       when prohibited
   DIR By: mairajbhaii
       Date: October 13, 2025, 2:31 pm
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       AO07138157 PCN Ealing
       Date of offence03/10/2025 16:18PCN
       numberAO07138157VRMBK07OGLStreetMandeville Road/ Ealing Road,
       Northolt (U)LocationCctvOffence Code31JOffenceEntering and
       stopping in a box junction when prohibited
       What are my options here, also couldnt get the video so ti
       assess if its really legit or can get some de minim leverage
       [member=1]cp8759[/member]
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       Re: 31J Ealing - PCN OffenceEntering and stopping in a box
       junction when prohibited
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 13, 2025, 2:50 pm
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       We've seen this ridiculous camera angle with foliage before.
       I'll see if I can get the video as now requested on Viewmypcn.
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       Re: 31J Ealing - PCN OffenceEntering and stopping in a box
       junction when prohibited
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 13, 2025, 5:42 pm
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       [member=3853]mairajbhaii[/member] please see the June 2025
       update at the bottom of the page here
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       Re: 31J Ealing - PCN OffenceEntering and stopping in a box
       junction when prohibited
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 13, 2025, 6:05 pm
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       In cases involving council YBJs, it is essential we see the
       video, because only the video can show whether a contravention
       has occurred or not.
       The contravention is one of entering the box and then having to
       stop within it due to the presence of stationary vehicles. Lots
       of councils get this wrong, there is a classic case of this on
       this forum running at the moment. Other thing is that only part
       of the vehicle needs to be in the box for a contravention.
       Please also post the PCN.
       I tried to look at the video for the alleged contravention of
       3rd Oct, today is now the 14th, (yes, I work <for free>  late
       !), but Ealing say it is still being prepared for viewing, and
       say this takes 24 hours, presumably from the PCN date, so what
       is the date of the PCN ? (Best if you just post it !)
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