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Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 20, 2025, 9:09 am
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I would wait for the NTO. Who is the registered keeper and are
the logbook name and address correct.
#Post#: 94824--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: TMOCONTRACTLAW
Date: October 20, 2025, 9:17 am
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I'm the registered keeper and the details on the logbook is
correct.
#Post#: 97687--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: TMOCONTRACTLAW
Date: November 11, 2025, 8:06 am
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The online status now states the "NtO/Enf. Notice Sent." I am
just waiting for it to show up in the post.
In the meantime I wanted to draft up my formal reps.
Would I just send them what I emailed over and do I paste the
appeal decision for their convenience?
#Post#: 97986--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: TMOCONTRACTLAW
Date: November 13, 2025, 8:27 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> I would wait for the NTO. Who is the registered keeper and are
the logbook name and address correct.
>
--- End Quote ---
I've received the NtO today which includes the representation
letter/form. The notice is dated 11/11/25.
Should I submit formal reps indicating "The alleged
contravention did not occur" and state the following:
I believe the contravention did not occur as I refer you to
London Tribunals case 2240520470 which you attended and invite
you to cancel the PCN/NtO.
Do let me know what you think and if I should include the case
summary in the reps.
#Post#: 97994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 13, 2025, 9:12 am
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Needs to be a bit longer.
I would say the below but wait for others.There is no rush.
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Further to your rejection of my informal challenge I have
researched the alleged contravention and found that it does not
exist in law.
The council must be aware that there is no contravention of a
blue badge holder being parked for longer than permitted in any
location, including on a yellow line.
In this case, the 3 hour exemption accorded to blue badge
holders is for parking in a restricted street during prescribed
hours; after 3 hours, the only contravention is being parked in
a restricted street during prescribed hours (code 01).
The PCN was issued not only for the wrong contravention but one
that does not exist.
I have summarised this from the decision in tribunal case xxxxx,
which was in Camden, and which I reproduce in full below for
your information.
The PCN must be cancelled and I look forward to your early
confirmation of such.
#Post#: 98000--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: TMOCONTRACTLAW
Date: November 13, 2025, 10:00 am
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I'll wait for others to respond.
Would it be ok to send a screenshot of the case summary instead
of pasting it into the reps online form? As, it might not let me
paste all of into the reply box and the formatting will look
off.
#Post#: 98002--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 13, 2025, 10:04 am
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Does the form not allow for attachments? If it do, you can
attach a pdf and so keep the formatting.
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Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 13, 2025, 10:25 am
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I added that the tribunal case was in Camden.
The important thing is not to just give a link but show them
something, in this a case they ought to know.
#Post#: 98014--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: TMOCONTRACTLAW
Date: November 13, 2025, 10:45 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
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> Does the form not allow for attachments? If it do, you can
attach a pdf and so keep the formatting.
>
--- End Quote ---
If the form does allow for attachments then I was thinking of
the following draft (if it doesn't allow it, I will get back to
you):
Further to your rejection of my informal challenge I have
researched the alleged contravention and found that it does not
exist in law.
The council must be aware that there is no contravention of a
blue badge holder being parked for longer than permitted in any
location, including on a yellow line.
In this case, the 3 hour exemption accorded to blue badge
holders is for parking in a restricted street during prescribed
hours; after 3 hours, the only contravention is being parked in
a restricted street during prescribed hours (code 01).
The PCN was issued not only for the wrong contravention but one
that does not exist.
I have summarised this from the decision in tribunal case
2240520470, which was in Camden, and which I reproduce in full
below for your information as attached in the PDF file.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2IASHz7sN3AiQHYcL6HnB4M1gQe8nm9/view?usp=drive_link
The PCN must be cancelled and I look forward to your early
confirmation of such.
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If anyone wants to make adjustments then pl let me know. I will
try to submit the reps next week as to give time for responses.
#Post#: 98020--------------------------------------------------
Re: Camden Council - Contravention 30o - Single Yellow Line, BB
Holder
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 13, 2025, 11:16 am
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It's not further to their rejection of informal reps, that's
past.
To flesh out a bit, I would suggest perhaps:
Dear Sir,
PCN **********
I refer to the above and NTO issued on ******. I hereby make
formal representations on the following grounds:
Contravention did not occur.
Rather than rehearse my informal reps in everyday motorists'
terms, I shall instead reproduce verbatim and rely upon the
decision of Adjudicator Stanton-Dunne of the Environment and
Traffic Adjudicators when allowing an appeal on 18 February 2025
on identical grounds, coincidentally against your council which
was actually represented at the hearing.
'This PCN ......not exist'.
I don't think I could add to his reasoning and therefore I am
content to let his words form my representations. I have
attached the ETA Case No. should you wish to verify the above -
*************.
The PCN must be cancelled.
Yours,
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