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#Post#: 93079--------------------------------------------------
SJP Notice - Exceeded Temp Limit 50 MPH Motorway
By: PhoenixDaCat Date: October 6, 2025, 11:54 am
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Hi
I received a SJP this weekend for an offence I committed in
June, and I'm worried sick to the point I've barely slept.
It's a BandC offence, so I know that it will be a fine of around
150% my weekly salary, plus 40% surcharge and costs. That's hard
but I can stomach it, just about.
What I'm really concerned about is that I could potentially get
a disqualification of 7 to 56 days, rather than 6 points.
I'm in the very very fortunate/lucky position of having a fully
costed company car as part of my remuneration, including a fuel
card. If I get a disqualification, even a short one, I will lose
my car; those are the rules.
This would be devastating for me, as I have a daily commute of
110 miles round trip, and the cost of fuel, maintenance,
insurance etc would be prohibitive. I wouldn't be able to keep
my job.
Also, I'm autistic. It doesn't affect my ability to drive,
should anyone be wondering.
I really struggle with public transport though, being around
people, and as only 3 in 10 autistic people are employed in the
UK, combined with my age, I don't think I would find another job
easily. I live by myself, I'd lose my house, and I've no family
so I would be homeless.
I'm also able to get to the coast at weekends, to walk, which is
good for my mindfulness.
Hence being worried sick.
I know that no one can tell me what the outcome will be, but I
guess I'm asking about the probability of getting a
disqualification.
I was towards the end of a 300 mile journey, which had seen 3
1/2 hours of delays. It was just past midnight, and I came
across the third set of overhead signs indicating a speed limit
of 50. As the other two stretches had had no roadworks, no
accidents, I foolishly ignored them and set the cruise to 60.
I came up behind some other vehicles and moved from lane 1 to
lane 4 to pass, but as I got to lane 4, the car in lane 3 pulled
into lane 4. Lane 3 was clear, so I accelerated, undertook, and
a short while later returned to lane 3 and dropped back to 60.
That's when an unmarked police car pulled infront of me, with
the instruction to follow.
Turns out the signs were at 50 nationally for a software update,
meaning they couldn't be set in the advent of an emergency.
The officer told me that he'd not been able to do a paced
measurement, but that I had hit 82 before slowing.
The offence on the SJP is for Exceeding Temp 50mph limit, but
I'm really concerned that the undertake will have a bearing on
this. It was stupid of me, I know that, but the car that moved
from lane 3 to 4 did so to slow me I feel, and I reacted.
Do any of you with experience in this field know if this would
be considered, as it's not an offence of dangerous driving or
driving without due care and attention?
Should I get professional advice on preparing a mitigation to
plead for 6 points, or is that pointless, is it a done deal?
#Post#: 93082--------------------------------------------------
Re: SJP Notice - Exceeded Temp Limit 50 MPH Motorway
By: andy_foster Date: October 6, 2025, 12:04 pm
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So, you want advice on the likelihood of a ban, made us read
through a page of mostly irrelevant twaddle before mentioning
the alleged speed (82 in a 50 for the benefit of anyone who lost
the will to live before getting to that bit) and then ask how
the undertake is likely to affect the sentence without telling
us whether it is mentioned in the Statement of Facts, and if so
how?
#Post#: 93086--------------------------------------------------
Re: SJP Notice - Exceeded Temp Limit 50 MPH Motorway
By: PhoenixDaCat Date: October 6, 2025, 12:14 pm
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Sorry Andy. I'm autistic. This is how I communicate. I'm so
sorry. Communication issues are part of the disability.
Yes, the undertake is mentioned in the officer's Witness
Statement.
He states what I mention above, that I moved from 1 to 4, a car
in 3 moved to 4, and then I moved back to 3 and passed the car
now in lane 4.
#Post#: 93088--------------------------------------------------
Re: SJP Notice - Exceeded Temp Limit 50 MPH Motorway
By: JustLoveCars Date: October 6, 2025, 12:19 pm
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With the SJP it will initially be considered by a Single Justice
where you cannot attend.
However, given the excess (apparently 82 in a 50?) it's likely
that they will send the matter to a court hearing to consider a
short ban. You may get (very) lucky and get 6 points without
progressing.
But at court a short ban is possible - that excess is just into
Band C so if they do ban it will be relatively short, say 1-2
weeks. (Any ban is effective immediately so you cannot drive
home)
As the undertake is mentioned in the facts then that could well
be considered as aggravating which may increase the sentence.
(They could have pursued a higher charge such as careless for
that, where the speed would be aggravating)
In terms of professional advice that's up to you but the points
you make will probably come best from you (assuming you are
intending to plead guilty). Probably worth saving the money for
the sentencing.
#Post#: 93090--------------------------------------------------
Re: SJP Notice - Exceeded Temp Limit 50 MPH Motorway
By: PhoenixDaCat Date: October 6, 2025, 12:22 pm
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Thank you JustLovesCars.
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